Children of Thomas & Mary COLLINGRIDGE 1805-1814, Brackley

[Connie Sparrow]

Thomas and Mary had four children:

John 1805-1824
Elizabeth 1809-?
George Louis 1812-?
William 1814-1815

I haven't been able to find a marriage or death for either Elizabeth or George Louis.

Elizabeth will probably fall out of the woodwork of her own volition in due course.  Elizabeth was a popular name in the family.

George Louis is a different matter.  Neither name was popular in the family, yet I can find nothing for him unless I missed him in the parish registers.

If anyone can find him, it would be much appreciated.

COLLINGRIDGE has a number of variant and alternative spellings: COLLINRIDGE, COLLINGDRIDGE, COLLINDRIDGE, COLLINGRIDE, COLLINGBRIDGE COLLINBRIDGE, amongst others plus the same spellings with one L

[Einepyk]

There was a George COLLINGRIDGE who died in Brackley in 1856
(Quarter Apr/May/Jun Vol 3B Page 3)

[Connie Sparrow]

There was a George COLLINGRIDGE who died in Brackley in 1856
(Quarter Apr/May/Jun Vol 3B Page 3)

Unfortunately he's accounted for.  He was the son of William and Ann Parker (nee LAKE) (b 10 Oct 1854, d 18 June 1856).  William was Thomas's son by his second wife, Elizabeth (nee GIBBS)

Thank you for having a look though  

[Einepyk]

Sorry Connie, I can't find any trace of them...

(I did come across an article in the Northampton Mercury of 16 March 1839 which might be of interest: 'Ann Collingridge, charged with stealing a quantity of wearing apparel, at Brackley, the property of Wm. Collingridge [her brother].')

Steve

[Connie Sparrow]

Sorry Connie, I can't find any trace of them...

(I did come across an article in the Northampton Mercury of 16 March 1839 which might be of interest: 'Ann Collingridge, charged with stealing a quantity of wearing apparel, at Brackley, the property of Wm. Collingridge [her brother].')

No apologies needed   If you haven't been able to find them, it means it wasn't because I couldn't see for looking.

That article is of interest as are the other two.  Ann must be Mary Ann who went on to marry a soldier.  She and the alleged A N Other took quite a bit.  Thank you very much for mentioning this find

[seahall]

Hi.

Although I can not help with your request, on the Northants Strays
the marriage of the William mentioned in Reply 2 is noted. 

Hethe, Oxon
12-Dec 1839
William COLLINGRIDGE of St Peter's Brackley, 23 bach lab, son of Thomas, lab   to
Ann Parker LAKE of Hethe, 17 spin, dau of Thomas, lab

May help other family members.

Sandy               

[seahall]

Also to possibly tie in with Steve's Reply 3 from the Northants Marriage Indexes.

Brackley
27-Feb 1842

George JAMES otp St Peter bachelor, full age, labourer, father Joseph, labourer to
Ann COLLENRIDGE otp St Peter spinster, full age, lacemaker, father Thomas, labourer

Sandy   

[Connie Sparrow]

Hi.

Although I can not help with your request, on the Northants Strays
the marriage of the William mentioned in Reply 2 is noted. 

Hethe, Oxon
12-Dec 1839
William COLLINGRIDGE of St Peter's Brackley, 23 bach lab, son of Thomas, lab   to
Ann Parker LAKE of Hethe, 17 spin, dau of Thomas, lab

May help other family members.


Also to possibly tie in with Steve's Reply 3 from the Northants Marriage Indexes.

Brackley
27-Feb 1842

George JAMES otp St Peter bachelor, full age, labourer, father Joseph, labourer to
Ann COLLENRIDGE otp St Peter spinster, full age, lacemaker, father Thomas, labourer

I hope this works

Thanks for the marriage of William and Ann Parker LAKE.  Both sets of parents were Thomas and Elizabeth.

The COLLINGRIDGEs were bad enough for recycling names but when the parents get in on the confusion as well ......

And they succeeded in confusing me.

The William and Ann  Steve found were the surviving son and daughter of Thomas and his second wife, Elizabeth (m 19 Aug 1815).  Ann was bapt 2 July 1815.  William was bapt 27 Mar 1818.

Ann had an illegitimate daughter, Ann Elizabeth (b 27 Feb, bapt 4 March 1840).

Thomas (Ann's father) died Sunday 23 Jan 1842.  Exactly 5 weeks later, on Ann Elizabeth's 2nd birthday, Ann marries George JAMES about whom I know nothing apart from the information given in the marriage entry you found.  I haven't been able to find them in any census, nor a convincing death for them, nor a probably marriage for Ann Elizabeth so far.

I have a feeling (and it's nothing more than that) Ann Elizabeth was George's dau and Thomas  told Ann she'd marry George "over my dead body".  His cause of death was "Act of God".

Now maybe George was a "badd'un" from the beginning or maybe he was the "more guilty party" being sought and under whose influence Ann was claimed to be acting, would require more research and may not get any answers. 

Ann's one month imprisonment was up on 27 May 1839.  Ann Elizabeth was conceived on or around 30 May 1839.

That William was prepared to take his sister to court for the theft of his "wearing apparel" suggests the family were decent and Ann was the black sheep.  If that was so,  Thomas could well have refused his consent/approval even though Ann didn't actually need it at 24.

I know that's conjecture but to find a truth one has to start with a theory, then prove or disprove it.  I'm going to try to (dis)prove the theory

[seahall]

The William and Ann  Steve found were the surviving son and daughter of Thomas and his second wife, Elizabeth (m 19 Aug 1815).  Ann was bapt 2 July 1815.  William was bapt 27 Mar 1818.

I have to disagree.

Ann baptised 1815 was the daughter of Thomas and Ann in the original register.

Although on the original marriage certificate a William is a witness, neither he or Ann sign their names.

Sandy