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Northowram
« on: Saturday 22 March 14 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for any old map or photographic or any information on a place in Northowram called Slack End. I have it in the early census and it shows next to Shibden Hall on the 1841 census.

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Re: Northowram
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 March 14 16:08 GMT (UK) »
I was surprised to discover that there's more than one Shibden Hall. The best-known one (a museum) is off the Hipperholme road out of Halifax, but there are also Upper and Lower Shibden Halls off the Bradford/Queensbury road, and I think one of these may be the one you have found. I'm not too sure where the township boundaries were, but it looks to me as though these two would have been in Northowram, and the other one wasn't.

At the Old Maps website http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ enter the co-ordinates 409004 and 428266, and on a suitably old and large-scale map you'll see Slack End on Bradford Old Road (now Swalesmoor Road), at the end of the drive to Lower Shibden Hall.

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Re: Northowram
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 March 14 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Arthur that is an enormous help to a southerner.

Would there have been a local Mill, brewery and Clay pit employers and would you happen to know what a Trammer did in the clay pits.

Thank you.

Jennifer
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Re: Northowram
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 March 14 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Would there have been a local Mill, brewery and Clay pit employers and would you happen to know what a Trammer did in the clay pits.

Mills - yes. I have a map from a later date which shows Netherton Mill and Holme Field Mill a short distance to the west; I'm not sure what the precise location would be - Holdsworth? And there would probably have been others within a mile or so.

Brewery - yes. Pigot's Directory (1834) lists Joseph Stocks & Co at Shibden Head - again very close, just on the eastern edge of Ambler Thorn.

Clay pits - are you sure it isn't coal pits, of which there are quite a few nearby? Clay mining isn't something the West Riding is particularly known for. On the other hand the map shows dozens of sandstone quarries in the area - maybe someone who knows a bit about geology might be able to say whether this makes clay pits more or less likely.

Trammers are apparently young mineworkers - see http://www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/t.html

I'm learning a lot today  ;)

Arthur


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Re: Northowram
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 March 14 17:25 GMT (UK) »
A big thank you once again Arthur for all your hard work.

I have re-checked the census and it seems the trammers in Clay pit was at a brick works?

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Re: Northowram
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 March 14 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi there are photos of the area here, scroll along and there are photos of the now derelict hall

http://www.flickr.com/photos/richboxfrenzy/4473776896/in/photostream/
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Northowram
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 March 14 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi, you may get some info here

http://northowram.org/history.html
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Northowram
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 March 14 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jool, it is nice to put some meat on the bones.

Jennifer
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Re: Northowram
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 March 14 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Depending on your knowledge of Northowram, I have a book (in PDF format) that you could download from my dropbox.
[History from @1600 to early 1900's]
 Brian
Nb I will put up link tomorrow Sunday if required!
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