Author Topic: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding  (Read 2117 times)

Offline memaku

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« on: Thursday 20 March 14 04:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi - am new to RootsChat and not sure I'm doing this right, but looking for information on my grandmother and her family.  Her name was Margaret M McGivney (b.1889, d. 1943).  She had a brother James (b. 1882, d. 1925), and a sister Mary (b. 1886, d.?) Their mother was Mary Malany (sp?) born 1859, died 1926.  I have very limited information on this side, and have not been able to verify or find much on Mary Malany - do not know the first name of her husband (McGivney) or where he was from.  All of them appear to have been born in Dewsbury, and died in the US.  Mary and her two daughters traveled to the US in 1905 (Port of Philadelphia) but Mary Malany was widowed at that time. James came to the US before they did. This is all I've been able to find so far. Thanks so much for your help!  Melinda from Florida

Offline keyboard86

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,056
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 March 14 04:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, Mary A is a widow in 1901, but this appears to be family in 1891:-

Peter MCGINLEY 39 occ Gas Maker b Cavan, Ireland (Looks to be McGivney on original)
Mary A 33
James 8
John 7
Mary A 5
Margaret 3
Residing at 26, Asylum, Dewsbury
All other than Peter born Dewsbury
Census Ref RG12/3733/21/35

Keyboard86
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

UK Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline gaffy

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,093
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 March 14 06:31 GMT (UK) »

FreeBMD has a marriage of Peter McGivney to Mary Ann Mulany, September 1879, Dewsbury, volume 9b, page 835.

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,090
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 March 14 07:44 GMT (UK) »
and death entry for Peter

Peter McGIVNEY died age 47
1899 Dewsbury Vol 9b  page 450
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline memaku

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 March 14 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Wow!  Thank you so much!  This is wonderful information.  I had no idea there were more children - there's not much information on them over here, and they didn't share very much family info.  Thanks again, and I'll let you know how the rest of the search goes  :)

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,090
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 March 14 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello Melinda

As Peter & Mary Ann married in 1879 Dewsbury I tried to see if I could find them on the
1881 census but didn’t have much luck  :(

I did find this birth and death entry and wondered if it might have been their first child but can’t say for sure without checking

Patrick McGivney
Mar 1881 Dewsbury Volume: 9b Page:   714
Patrick McGivney died age 1 Sep 1882 Dewsbury Volume: 9b Page:   420

This appears to be Mary Ann Mulany’s birth entry

Mary Ann Malany Apr-May-Jun 1858 Dewsbury Volume:   9b Page:   486

And possible her on the 1861/1871 census

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3410; Folio: 42; Page: 18
surname transcribed as MULLANNY
606 High St Dewbury
Mary Head Mar. 30 Ireland occ. rag sorter
Ann 6
MARY A 3 Dewsbury

1871 RG10; Piece: 4601; Folio: 108; Page: 49
Middle Road
James MULLANY 42 Silgo Ireland occ. cordwainer
Mary 40 Rosscommon Ireland
Anne 17
MARY A 13 Dewsbury
Thomas 5 mths  (possible death Thomas Mullaney 1875 Dewsbury age 4)

Don't know if any of these relates to the James Mullany above
date 1848 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMQ9-GY5
date 1868 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMQS-XWV
death 1889 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTHH-LNP

Mary's marriage certificate to Peter would confirm both their father's name & occupation

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,090
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 March 14 15:44 GMT (UK) »
This looks to be them on 1881 census same address as the 1891 census

Asylum Rd Dewsbury
Patrick Mc GAVENY 29 Ireland  Lab (Plasterer)
Mary Ann 23 Dewsbury
Patrick 2 months Dewsbury
RG11; Piece: 4561; Folio: 37; Page: 13

I see from Peter & Mary’s son James US WW1 Draft registration card his middle name is Patrick

James Patrick McGivney
City:   Philadelphia
Birth Date:   19 Jun 1882
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,090
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 March 14 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Melina - another bit of info. to check out

I noticed that in 1904 James McGivney was travelling with an Annie Kelly
both going to same address 3602 No. 35th St Phildelphia

His mother Mary & sisters were also going to the same address in 1905

Could Annie Kelly be Mary’s sister?

There is a marriage in Dewsbury 1872
Annie MULLANEY name on same page John KELLY

1914 Death Edmunds G Kelly born 1882
parents John Kelly & Annie Maloney
Address 3620 N. 35 St Philadelphia
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK9F-C8X
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline memaku

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: McGivney family from Dewsbury, Yorkshire W Riding
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 March 14 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much!  I don't know the relationship exactly, but do know that Annie Kelly had some connection because when my GM and GGM (Mary) came to the US in 1905, Annie Kelly was listed.  I also remember hearing that name growing up, but never knew the connection.  This is awesome!  I am very grateful for the help.  I have never seen so many first and middle names that are the same interchanged so much!  It makes things a bit confusing ;)