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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 March 14 12:12 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Joseph in 1871

RG10; Piece: 234; Folio: 21; Page: 35
Prebend St, St Pancras, London

Joseph Groutage   24 head   wood cutter                                   Rotherithe, Surrey
Emma Groutage      26 wife                                                        Bermondsey, Surrey
Mary Hayles           24 wife's sister                                             Bermondsey, Surrey
Catherine Shortell   41 lodger
Margaret Scaldwell   76 lodger
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 March 14 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: greensleeves on Monday 17 March 14 12:09 GMT (UK)
  Gmontges -  why didn't I think of that!   ;D  How on earth did you find them? 

A search for the entire family but with the surname omitted found them - comes in very useful with the more unusual names!
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 March 14 12:54 GMT (UK) »
I hadn't thought of trying that, Sunnee-Dee, thanks for the tip!

And thanks for finding Joseph for me, Jan.
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 March 14 12:59 GMT (UK) »
 1861   Gape St ?   

Benj Groutage  41   married   wood cutter born Bermondsey 
 Joseph Groutage  11  son 
 William Groutage  9  son   
 May Groutage  7   dau
  all children   born Bermondsey


 
 
 

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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:05 GMT (UK) »
 From LMA  records

Joseph Groutage

Record Type:
Baptism

Baptism Date:
31 Mar 1850   born March 4th   1850  (    date  shown on   original )

Father's Name:
Benjamin Groutage    labourer   11 Jacob  St

Mother's name:
Caroline Groutage

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Bermondsey Christ Church

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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:24 GMT (UK) »
1881 census, 76 Camden Street, Pancras
RG11207/22/37

Joseph Growtrige 30 Woodchopper born Bermondsey
Emma Growtrige 30 Laundress born Bermondsey
Elizabeth Haley 10 Niece born Bermondsey
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:31 GMT (UK) »
I think we should now be looking for variant spellings of the surname

Marriages Jun 1876

Groutridge, Joseph,  St. Saviour,  1d 206
Haley,  Emma,  St Saviour,  1d 206

St John the Evangelist, Walworth
29 April 1876
Joseph Groutridge, full age, bachelor, woodcutter, father Benjamin Groutridge Deceased
Emma Haley, full age, spinster, no occ, father James Haley Deceased

Both left their marks 'X' rather than signatures
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:46 GMT (UK) »
At least that tells us that Benjamin died before 1876, unless Joseph wasn't telling the truth.

Interesting that on the 1871, Joseph gave his age as 24 when he would only have been 20/21 and quite a bit younger than Emma - I wonder if this is why they didn't marry until later. I see in the 1881 they were both economical with their ages.
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Re: Where did Caroline go?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 17 March 14 13:57 GMT (UK) »
also this one....

Deaths Jun 1892
Groutidge, Joseph, aged 43, Pancras 1b 106
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