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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 27 March 14 05:14 GMT (UK) »
first time on this site, so I'm hoping I'm doing this correctly,
My great grandmother Jane Tucker married John Sinclair, and my great grand mother Elizabeth Tucker married Alfred Smith, I think means that they were sisters, and John Sinclair b 1863 who married Elizabeth Smith b 1865 were cousins,
When Jane came out on the Ship Harriet, her parents are listed as Richard and Maria mother dead,  father living in Lambeth
When Elizabeth came out on the Ship Plantagenet, parents are listed as Richard and Maria mother dead, father living in Lambeth, Would love to hear what other think, :)

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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #37 on: Friday 28 March 14 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Dear Linda,

I tracked the Tuckers back to Lambeth and other places and found some births and marriages. I have passed copies of these on to Leeroy and can do the same for you if you wish. Let me know.

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Bill

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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #38 on: Friday 28 March 14 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Dear Bill,
That would be great Bill, Leeroy was in touch with me about two weeks ago and did send a few certificates to me which was good of him, and I sent a few back to him, I am interested in Richard and Maria, Any information would be greatly appreciated, Thanks again Linda

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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #39 on: Friday 28 March 14 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda, Bill just sent me some amazing certificates, very well researched was going to ask him if it was okay to pass these onto you. But looks like it's all sorted :)
BODELL, SYDES, PRIGMORE, DAVIES from Shoreditch, England.
McNALLY from Hawkesbury, North Sydney & Yass.
DAVIDSON from Grafton.
DANIEL from Aberdeen, Scotland
SHERDEN from Leichhardt, Manchester.
GIUFFRE from Santa Marina.
DEHON from New Zealand.
SMITH, BOWERS from Waterloo.
BRADFORD from Dubbo.
ARTZ from Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany.
CAMPBELL, BEATON & McCALLUM form Argyle, Scotland.


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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 29 March 14 03:14 GMT (UK) »
Dear Linda,

It would appear that you have the Tuckers in OZ well covered. As mentioned I have been able to trace the 2 sisters back to England and their parents and other siblings. However, there is a problem in getting copies of any documents to you as I don't know how to reduce the file size of each document and each one is generally too big to attach here, there being restrictions on the size allowed. If you don't already have my e-mail address, get in touch with Leeroy and ask him for it. If you then get in touch with me by e-mail, I can attach any records to a return e-mail.

Briefly, Richard Tucker was a Customs & Excise Man. He married Maria Smith at St Pancras on 2 May 1825. Because of his occupation, he moved around a bit, so the children were born in various places.
Richard, the first born, was baptised at St Pancras 3 December 1826.
William followed and was baptised at Battersea 10 August 1828 (born 14 July).
Maria Ann was baptised in South Moreton, Berkshire 11 July 1830 (IGI)
Jane was baptised in South Moreton, Berkshire 6 March 1832 (IGI)
Elizabeth was baptised in South Moreton, Berkshire 19 September 1833 (IGI) and appears to have died in infancy.
George was born in Newbury, Berkshire in ca. 1835.
Elizabeth was born in Glasgow, Scotland in ca. 1837.

Richard's wife, Maria dies between 1837 and 1841 as she does not appear on the 1841 Census, only the above children (except for the first Elizabeth) and a Female Servant, Hellen Allen. I mention this latter person, as in 1843, Richard marries her and starts a second family. I found 2 children to this marriage - Henry and Helen both born in Northamptonshire. This shows up on the 1851 Census with Maria and Elizabeth still living at home. What happens to Richard and Helen and their 2 children after 1851, I have been unable to determine, but they are no longer to be found in any of the later Census. Richard, could have emigrated somewhere, like his 2 daughters, Jane & Elizabeth.

In the 1851 Census, Richard and his brother William are living with a George Green & his wife Sarah. On Christmas day of 1851 Richard marries a Sarah Green, a daughter of a George Green and I suspect the same George Green that Richard and his brother were staying with earlier that year.

William Tucker went on to marry Janet Sutherland in Lanack, Scotland 6 June 1852 (IGI)

George went on to marry Frances Lennox in E. London, in the September quarter of 1859

In the 1851 Census, Jane is shown as being the 'daughter' of a John Tucker and his wife Sarah. But this is an error, and it should have been 'niece'. For on the following page and as part of the same family, Jane's brother George is listed  and he is shown as being a nephew of John & Sarah. John Tucker & Sarah Hannah Ball were married in 1843 at Canonbury St Paul, Islington. John states his father as being Thomas Tucker, Clerk. When Richard married for the second time also in 1843, he also stated that his father was Thomas, but occupation Exciseman. No doubt the same father, and if Thomas was also an Exciseman, it probably explains why Richard was born in Ireland while John was born in Kent.

John Tucker was a Cabinet Maker as were Jane & Elizabeth's brothers.

I think That that is about the lot for now. Hope that you can follow it all OK,

Regards,

Bill

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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 29 March 14 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bill, Thank you so much for the Information, it was great to read,
This Helen Tucker may be our Helen Tucker on the 1881 census
Census 1881 Channel Islands address Ramee Rd parish of Peter Port
Helen Tucker widow head 65 Grocer born St John's Scotland
Henry Tucker son 37 abt 1844 - Gardener Kettering Northamptonshire
Helen Lee Tucker dau age 33 widow b Wellingbora,

Census 1891 Channel Island
Henry Tucker age 47 abt 1844 Lodger, Northamptonshire, Gardener




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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Dear Linda,

That would definitely be the family. Helen was 36 in 1851 and is listed as being born in Scotland. I have just been looking for the father, Thomas, of Richard and John. And, I believe that I have found him in the 1841 Census. Tower Hamlets, St Leonard Shoreditch, Great Cambridge Street,
Thomas Tucker 66 No
Elizabeth Tucker 40 Ireland
Maria Tucker 30 No
John Tucker 28 No

Thomas Tucker is buried in St Mary Haggerston MX on 23 December 1849 aged 74, address Great Cambridge Street. I am trying to find, at present, what happened to the above Elizabeth and Maria.

Regards,

Bill

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Re: Elizabeth TUCKER - Alfred SMITH b1834
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 12 April 14 05:57 BST (UK) »
Hi guys,

Finally able to reply with hopefully a reasonable question.

Any person able to to add to Jane Tucker b. 1831 and John Sinclair b.1829 children. I have eight recorded children ?

1. Jane Sinclair b. 26/6/1856 Glebe (1380/1858) - d.4/7/1908
2. Alexander Sinclair b.14/11/1860 (2238/1860)
3. John Sinclair b.26/3/1863 (3092/1863)
4. Walter Thomas Sinclair b.1866 Berrima (5969/1866) - d.1945
5. Elizabeth Sinclair b.1868 (6541/1868)
6. Amy Sinclair b.17/12/1871 (97/1872)
7. Louisa Sinclair b.1874 (3872/1874)
8. William Sinclair b.1877 (4234/1877)
BODELL, SYDES, PRIGMORE, DAVIES from Shoreditch, England.
McNALLY from Hawkesbury, North Sydney & Yass.
DAVIDSON from Grafton.
DANIEL from Aberdeen, Scotland
SHERDEN from Leichhardt, Manchester.
GIUFFRE from Santa Marina.
DEHON from New Zealand.
SMITH, BOWERS from Waterloo.
BRADFORD from Dubbo.
ARTZ from Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany.
CAMPBELL, BEATON & McCALLUM form Argyle, Scotland.