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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Okay - i've had a closer look and now realised i may have given you some incorrect information (sorry about that) - see below.

Looking at other Lairs in the Script Book, its apparent that (as well as being something of a 'dogs-dinner') other burial entries are indicated as "adult" or "child" along with the date of burial. The dates shown in David McIntyres Script Book entry for Lair 2-X-157 don't indicate adult or child burials (apart from his wife Helen).

Also, if you look carefully at the Script Book entry, you can see that the cost of David McIntyres Lair was "£3.3s.0d" or "1 @ 63/-"  (three pounds & three shillings is the same as 63 shillings).  You can just see the lair below belonging to Mrs Margaret Pollock was also £3.3s.0d. In fact, at this time, they were all £3.3s.0d for this type of Lair.

The first column is a 'debit' account. The second column is a 'credit' account. So, in other words, David McIntyre did not settle the bill for the Lair in full until 4-Jan-1919 with your Certificate being issued on 16-Jan-1919.  He paid in instalments of £1.11s.6d + 10s + 10s + 5s + 5s + 1s.6d = £3.3s.0d on the dates indicated  (of course, nowadays, he'd be charged interest for taking 5years to pay the bill!)

So it looks like nobody else is buried in Lair 2-X-157, just his wife Helen at a depth of 8 feet (so still plenty of room for subsequent occupants).

Apologies for misleading you initially.

I've checked on FindAGrave.com - there was no entry for Helen, so I have created one for her - see https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/234900080/helen-mcintyre

If you ping me on FindAGrave (user smithbill17) I can pass the record ownership to you.


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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 17 July 22 11:39 BST (UK) »
I have a burial in Sighthill Cemetery - scrip number 2865. (Lair No 62, Class 10)

How do I view the information for that scrip number?
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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:01 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the Script Book for scripts below 3983 are missing, so you won't be able to look up the entry for Script 2865.

However, if you have a date of death & a name or address, then you can look up the Daily Interment book for the burial details of your ancestor.

If you only know the month of death, then you can easily page through the Daily Interment book searching through several pages for the right death. If you're the type to persevere, you could even page through 2 or 3 months worth of burials. But if you only know the year of death, then you'll probably have to read through 50+ pages of deaths to stand any chance of finding who you are looking for.

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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:10 BST (UK) »
To view the Sighthill Daily Interment books (or Script Books after 3983), you need to:

1. go to  familysearch.org  and sign up for a free account
2. login to familysearch.org and select to 'Search Catalog' (you want Catalog, not Search Records)
3. Enter "Glasgow" in the search box and choose "Scotland, Lanark, Glasgow" and press the "Search" button
4. In the resulting list, expand the entry for "cemeteries"
5. Select "Sighthill Cemetery" from the list
6. You will now see links for the available microfilms - choose the film you want to view & click the small camera icon. You can then begin paging through the film one page at a time or you can jump back/forwards by entering a page number.

The films are NOT indexed, so you cannot search them except by plodding through the film pages.

I recommend you do the above on a PC as the film viewer doesn't work properly on some mobile devices.


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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:13 BST (UK) »
Obviously, without a Script Book entry, you will not be able to tell who else is buried in the Lair.  You will need dates of death & name or address for each burial so you can look them up individually in the Daily Interment book.

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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:26 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the Script Book for scripts below 3983 are missing, so you won't be able to look up the entry for Script 2865.
Thank you.

The process you describe is exactly how I got the script no in the first place, and the reason I wanted to know how to look up the script no is so that I can find out who else is in the lair, and if so who they are and when they died.

And I wouldn't dream of doing anything on a phobile that could be done on a PC :)
 
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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:36 BST (UK) »
Ah, unfortunately you're scuppered then as the Script Book I think was lost or destroyed (not sure).

However, I recommend you look at the year & particularly the depth of the Burial you already have. Most burials of the first person in the Lair, are at around 7-8ft (although a few at 10ft). If the Burial you already have is at say 4ft, then you can be pretty certain there's at least one other burial beneath them, and potentially 2 other burials (allow 1.5ft to 2ft per burial).

Also, the year of death for the Burial you already have - if it's quite recent, say 1910, then because the Script number is a low one & therefore an old Lair, then it was obviously bought a long time before say 1910 & therefore probably has someone else in the Lair. If there is a lot of years between your Script number (Script 2865 = 1845-50) and the Burial you already have, then it's likely that the Lair was bought to bury a parent or even a grandparent & the subsequent burial you already have was a son/daughter going into the 'family lair'.

Did that make any sense?

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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 July 22 12:41 BST (UK) »
And if you can make a guess that an earlier burial was a parent or grandparent, then once you know when they died, you can look up the Sighthill Daily Interment book for their date of death & see if they went into the Lair prior to the Burial you already have.

Most burial Lairs were family plots - so it's likely that immediate family of the Burial you already have, are the ones buried in the Lair.

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Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 July 22 13:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you.

The burial I have was in 1856, at a depth of 7 feet, and I am mainly interested in earlier burials, if any, as later deaths can easily be traced through the statutory death records.

I am quite familiar with how burial records are kept in general though I have not come across the term 'Script No" before.

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