Ralph Archbold

[trish1120]

FreeREG has a lot of info for you;
Eg,
ARCHBOLD, Baptised    Church of the Holy Cross, Chatton, Northumberland
ANN, 31 Aug 1806, 2nd Daug, Buried 12 Nov 1806 age 3mths and 3weeks
ISABELLA, 26 Sept 1807, 3rd Daug, Buried 28 Sept 1807 age 18days
JAMES, 2 April 1809, 1st Son****
ANN, 1 Sept 1811, 4th Daug
ELEANOR, 25 Oct 1812, 5th Daug
JOHN, 3 April 1814, 7th Son (I think this should be 2nd Son)
GEORGE, 16 Feb 1817
FRANCES, 24 May 1818
ISABELLA, 10 Nov 1822
RICHARD, 10 Nov 1822, Birth 17 Feb 1820
EDMUND, 19 Nov 1826

Earlier ones have;
Parents George ARCHBOLD and Elizabeth TURNBULL
Fathers Occp Shoemaker
Mother 4th Daug of JOHN Turnbull, a Labourer of Branxton

This is their 1st Daug;
ELIZABETH, 8 April 1804, Illegitimate, Mother a native of Branxton Parish
Parents George ARCHBOLD and Elizabeth TURNBULL
www.freereg.org.uk

1841 Census
Chatton, Northumberland
HO107/833/1/Chatton
George ANHBOLD, 55, Ag Lab
Elizabeth, 55
Isabella, 15
Edmund, 14

1851 they are under George ANHLOLES born c 1782 Chatton, and Elizabeth Anhboles born c 1784 Branton (Branxton)

[StoryWoman]

Thank you, that's enormously helpful, we were trying to establish the Chatton connection!

[trish1120]

Your welcome.
FreeREG is a great site, down by Volunteers from Parish Records.
You can just search Chatton records and also use soundex option as a second option also, as name may be Archbold/Archibold etc in transcription.

If you need any more help just ask.

Trish

[Ruskie]

I am a little confused.

I found a James (joiner) and Isabella Archbold in the 1841 census in Cowpen with son George.

I based this on the fact that you said your Ralph was born in 1860. I found your Ralph in 1861 with father George, mother Ann. I presumed that this George was the one that I found in the 1841 census with parents James and Isabella? Do you know if this is your Archbold family?

Trish has found:
[quote author=trish1120 link=topic=680668.msg5252297#msg5252297
1841 Census
Chatton, Northumberland
HO107/833/1/Chatton
George ANHBOLD, 55, Ag Lab
Elizabeth, 55
Isabella, 15
Edmund, 14

[/quote]

Where do these Archbold's fit it to your family?

Question for Trish - who are the parents of this list of children?:

FreeREG has a lot of info for you;
Eg,
ARCHBOLD, Baptised    Church of the Holy Cross, Chatton, Northumberland
ANN, 31 Aug 1806, 2nd Daug, Buried 12 Nov 1806 age 3mths and 3weeks
ISABELLA, 26 Sept 1807, 3rd Daug, Buried 28 Sept 1807 age 18days
JAMES, 2 April 1809, 1st Son****
ANN, 1 Sept 1811, 4th Daug
ELEANOR, 25 Oct 1812, 5th Daug
JOHN, 3 April 1814, 7th Son (I think this should be 2nd Son)
GEORGE, 16 Feb 1817
FRANCES, 24 May 1818
ISABELLA, 10 Nov 1822
RICHARD, 10 Nov 1822, Birth 17 Feb 1820
EDMUND, 19 Nov 1826

Sorry I am having problems working out who is who on these lists of names. Or, are these just lists of Archbolds who might be of interest to StoryWoman? 

We have BMD info on Ralph, but we have questions about the rest of his offspring, apart from poor John George, by his first marriage to Jane Richardson in 1880, Mary Ann and George. We have Ralph and his second wife on the 1901
census, in Gladstone Street, but then nothing until his death in 1931.

Can I just clarify please?
Ralph married Jane Richardson in 1880?
John George the child who drowned was their son?
Are Mary Ann and George also their children?
Ann is Ralph's second wife?
You are looking for Ralph and Ann in the 1911 census?
Ralph dies in 1931?

When you say you are "trying to establish the Chatton connection" - what do you mean?

[StoryWoman]

I have census records of Ralph married to Jane Richardson in 1881, widowed with 6yo Margaret J, 4yo Mary A and 2yo George, then married again by 1901 to Mary, with 8yo John (my grandfather), 15yo James and 13yo Mary Ann. As the last 2 children do not appear on ea rlier census records it seems unlikely that they're his biological children.

[StoryWoman]

  We've tried a search on the 1911 census and can't find Ralph, his wife or children. Does anyone know where he went? We'd be interested to make contact with other descendants of Ralph who may have info they'd be willing to share.

[trish1120]

Sorry if what I posted was confusing Ruskie

This is what I was linking in my strange way;
RALPH Archbold 1859, Parents GEORGE/ANN
GEORGE Archbold 1836, Parents JAMES/ISABELLA (1851 HO107/2412/427/80)
JAMES Archbold 1809 born Chatton, Parents GEORGE/ELIZABETH

I posted the Baptisms of George/Elizabeths Children including James 1809

Then the 1841 Census for George/Elizabeth and James's remaining Siblings still at Home.
Plus the Ref for George/Elizabeth in 1851 under Anhloles.

Trish

[trish1120]

Look for John ARCHIBALD, born c 1893, Blythe, Northumberland, in missing Census.
His Parents are there also.

[trish1120]

1881 we JOHN G who drowned

1891 we have Ralph Widowed with Children;
MARGARET J 1885
MARY A 1887
GEORGE 1889
Ralphs Mother Ann is there also
RG12/4238/58/33

1901 we have;
JOHN 1893
JAMES 1886
MARY ANN 1888
RG13/4813/59/40

So you think Mary Ann and James may be Ralphs now Wife Marys Children StoryWoman?
I think only maybe JAMES was not his Child.

So at least we think Ralph was the Father of John G, Margaret, Mary, George, John.

Death Regs;
JOHN GEORGE Archbold, June 1885, Tynemouth age 4
JANE Archbold,  March 1891 Tynemouth age 30
MARGARET JANE Archbold, Dec 1891, Tynemouth age 6

So 2 Children have died.

I can find no second Marriage for Ralph to a Mary, or anyone at all post 1880 Marriage to Jane Richardson.

Marriage Reg;
Mary Annie ARCHBOLD, June 1909, Morpeth, 10b 735
Edward OWENS on same page

When you see the 1911 Census this will all make sense I hope