Ralph Archbold

[trish1120]

Hi again StoryWoman,

Do you have Johns Birth Cert to establish his Mothers maiden name?
His Death Reg June 1893 (according to a Tree I saw) age 90, gives his Birth Date as 28 Jan 1893

There is only 1 that fits on FreeBMD;
John ARCHBOLD, March 1893, Tynemouth, 10b 317

[Ruskie]

Thanks for the clarification Trish. For some reason I just got quite confused. 

[trish1120]

I'm not suprised I confused you when I looked back at it I could see why.
My excuse is I was posting at 2-3am here

[Ruskie]

That is a very good excuse. 

[StoryWoman]

Thank you for all your help, my sister has everyone on the tree until we get to Ralph post 1901 census, when he's shown as married to Mary, with 3 children, at 6 Gladstone St, Cowpen. We just don't know where they lived after this date, or what happened to his 'wife' and James and Mary Ann. We're pretty clear on everyone but this particular family group.

[StoryWoman]

After conversations with my sisters we do now think James is the only child who is not biologically Ralph's. John (28 January 1893 - ? April 1983) is my grandfather, and we believe his mother died when he was an infant. The mystery surrounds Ralph's apparent 2nd marriage, and what happened to him after 1901. Our grandfather didn't talk much about his family. Thank you for all your help so far, it's greatly appreciated.

[trish1120]

As Jane Archbold nee Richardson died 1891 then she cannot be Johns Mother.
Death Reg;
JANE Archbold,  March 1891 Tynemouth age 30

You need to get Johns Birth Cert to establish his Mothers maiden name as I said earlier.
His Mother must be the mysterious Mary on 1901/1911 Census.
It looks to me that Ralph/Mary never Married and the B/C of John is the only way you will find anything more out about her.

Birth Reg;
John ARCHBOLD, March 1893, Tynemouth, 10b 317

Have you looked at the 1911 Census that I gave you info for?

Trish

[trish1120]

Accidentily pushed wrong button there so posted too much and have deleted it;

1891 we have Ralph Widowed with Children (under ARCHLOLD);
MARGARET J 1885
MARY A 1887
GEORGE 1889
Ralphs Mother Ann is there also
RG12/4238/58/33

So Ralph is Widowed.
The date of the 1891 Census was 5 April 1891 so that is why as Janes Death was Reg Jan/Feb/March Qtr of 1819.

[StoryWoman]

I'm going to order John's BC today, in the hope of solving the mystery of his mothers identity, presumably Mary. I'll then probably have the answer to whether or not she and Ralph were married, but I don't think they were.