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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #18 on: Friday 14 March 14 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jason,

I have Alexander Shields arriving in New York 27th March 1910 on the "Columbia" so not sure if he would get married on that date. His oldest child, Margaret was born in Pennsylvania, that must have been in 1910 as well, on the ship's manifest, he gave final destination as Pitsburg, Pa., so they may have set up there at first then moved to Rochester, shortly after.
I was looking for a Catherine on the "Columbia" only saw 1 from Row, Dumbartonshire. A Catherine McDonald, when you click on her name on ships manifest the wrong record comes back, so unable to accept or reject her.
Did you ever find the marriage certificate for Alexander and Catherine?

Tom

PS Was reading your old post, "Shiels Ellen Nute", I was born 100 yards from Myles farm in Tranent, its a small world.
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 March 14 17:02 GMT (UK) »
I find it interesting that Catherine shields has two daughters named Mary and Margaret .. Same names as in Winifred's / Mary. Family..

I was told alexander went to Florida to help build the new cities.. I guess Florida was just starting to become what is now in the 1920s ...

Just like james I believe alexander was a carpenter.. Earned his degree in Scotland .. I have james parchment paper from Scotland like 1909 I believe ...

Here in rochester james obit noted he helped build some of the cities buildings..

Also based on Florida census know makes sense that Alexander was in Florida with Catherine in 1930 when tragedy struck my side of the family with James and winifred .. Or the kids might have stayed with alexander ..

Jason
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 March 14 17:57 GMT (UK) »
 Hi Jason,

He must have stayed in Pennsylvana first then New York, before going to Miami, Florida.

Margaret Shields   F   20    Pennsylvania    
Mary Shields           F   17    New York    
Arthur J Shields           M   14    New York    
Catherine Shields   F   12    New York

Unless he was travelling to Miami but keeping his family in NY.

Tom
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 March 14 22:05 GMT (UK) »
There's two ship logs from ellis with alexander first is Pennsylvania then a year or so later he left Scotland again on a ship to stay in rochester.. He was a busy bee...

Jason
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 March 14 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jason,

I only see the 26 yo Alexander Shields on the Columbia arriving 27 March 1910. The other ones are either Irish or the wrong ages.

Did you ever get Alexanders marriage certificate, to get Catherine's name etc?

Tom
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 15 March 14 00:20 GMT (UK) »
Nope haven't tried hunting the marriage certificate .. I do all my searching through google.. No pay sites for me so far.. I like the hunt..

My computer broke so all my favorites etc are gone.. Doing everything through the iPhone..

Thanks and sorry... I may get another PC I love this stuff.. My new hobby might just do what all you nice people are doing for me.. It's fun to hunt and paint the picture ..

Thanks
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 15 March 14 04:17 GMT (UK) »
So just for roundness:
When  James (son of Peter and Ellen) came over on the Furnessia in May 1910, he gave his "home" contact as Mother, Ellen SHIELDS of 84 John St Glasgow - and his destination contact in Rochester NY as Brother in Law, Wm. Reid. All ties in rather lovely.

Was Alexander B's wife already in US in 1910 when he came in - I note he is in the Census in Dade, with wife Catherine and a daughter born 1910....?

The above was a post from another topic related to my family here..

I started searching for a Catherine Reid .. Ellis island .. Brother in law...?

So if alexander and james are not married but Hugh Reid a brother in law.. And neighbors in Scotland ..

Hmmm.. Street addresses..
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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 15 March 14 04:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jason,

He must have stayed in Pennsylvana first then New York, before going to Miami, Florida.

Margaret Shields   F   20    Pennsylvania    
Mary Shields           F   17    New York    
Arthur J Shields           M   14    New York    
Catherine Shields   F   12    New York

Unless he was travelling to Miami but keeping his family in NY.

Tom

This above where is this from.. I look at kids age and different cities and think census prior to 1930.. Something is here .. I feel it..

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Re: Winifred Glanston Shields .. Finally another lead
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 15 March 14 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Catherine had to be in pa in 1909..

Or

Just has to be or another shields I dont know about in PA..

I found an older alexander shields in pa on ellis ..

Cool thing is the alexander and  Catherine combo we are talking about has I think the middle name blackie.. Alexander b. shields .. That was Alex's fathers peters shields grandfathers last name in his mothers side..

It isn't totally proven but all the census show his name going from Peter blackie to peter shields... We believe alexander and james shields dad peter was born during the Myles farm era with a farmhand Janet blackie..

There's a boat load of info on this forum with my family and links and only possible with good people like you all.. Thanks everyone ..

Monica here remembers all about that other believed family oopsie.. George shiells 1851 with Janet blackie .. Farmhands at Myles farm.. Peter was born and  raised by the blackies  alexander blackie the grandfather..George and Janet were not married at this time..

I just gotta tell everyone here..I love my Monica .. Thanks Monica for all the help you have given me here..

Jason
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