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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 03 March 16 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackie and Laura,
Would you like to switch to personal messaging. I'm not sure how it works three way but we can figure it out. Jackie, you might have to send one more message to reach the minimum of three.
Frances

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 03 March 16 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi , If you prefer personal messages that's fine by me , have some thoughts about Lilian Warby . She DEFINATLY married Harry , it's all on Ancestry , but I don't know how to send it to you .
      Warmest Wishes Jackie

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 03 March 16 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi again
Am on Holiday at present in Kuala Lumpur, am happy to try & message?
Hi Frances :)


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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 03 March 16 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi , Re  Joan Maskens , Have just been rummaging around her Birth Cert & marriage one to Dennis Seale ,  on Ancestry .  I don't know if you have the Marriage Cert or not but according to Andrews Card index it cites the father of Joan as Charles William Maskens ! Not Harry . Obviously this needs to be checked but it would then follow an odd train of thought . It's late in Uk but  it's on my tree if you can se it on Ancestry . Have not learned how to use it yet properly . I also found Charles William Maskens in the 1911 census aged 36 with his small son Charles Alfred Maskens aged 9 , but it did not give an address. All VERY odd . Can you help me on this please Jackie


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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #67 on: Friday 04 March 16 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Oh my the plot thickens?  My Son Tyson just called his Son Alfred which I thought was the weirdest choice of names? How bizarre?

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #68 on: Friday 04 March 16 01:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Laura,
I have sent through a three way personal message to you and Jackie. I hope you received it,
Frances

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #69 on: Friday 04 March 16 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackie and Laura.  I'm Pauline the other 2nd cousin, that Frances made reference to.  The Charles Maskens on the 1911 census is a Charles Russell Maskens not Charles William.  Address looks like 7 Major Rd. Bermondsey.
The info I have is that Harry deserted from the Army in 1918. After this his then known whereabouts are in Australia when he marries Laura S in 1921, the same year that Joan is born.   
I was told by an aunt that Harry married 4 times one using an alias, but as to date have found no proof.  This fourth marriage caused a big rift in my Granddad's family and my Nan refused to have anything more to do with him.  I was told he had a shop in Battersea, which would have been in the 1950's/60's. 

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #70 on: Friday 04 March 16 02:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pauline,
I have sent out a personal message which now includes the four of us.
Frances

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #71 on: Friday 04 March 16 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Sorry all I have no idea how to get to the personal messages . Can someone please explain ?
 
  As to Harry deserting from the army , that agrees with a tale from " Nanny ." My great aunt Elizabeth ,was Lillian ' s sister , & bought up my Mum Eileen GM , my sister , & myself . Nanny said that Harry did" run away from the army  " . He was called up & because he was tall he went to the Guards . She explained that this was not something that he could manage . To be fair , I don't think it was cowardice , the war was CARNAGE , of the worst kind . I have recently read quite a  bit about it as my local family history soc.  are doing an exhibition on the Somme & I am involved.
   In fact Lilian's brother George Frederick Warby was killed in 1917  leaving a wife & child , & there was another Warby relative who was also killed at roughly the same time as a young man in his 20's .
     I think unless you have researched WW 1 a bit you forget how dreadful the carnage was .
   16 million were thought to be killed throughout the war , not only France , Russia , Turkey, Africa, both north & south & even South America . Anyone who deserted was for the firing squad even young boys 14 upwards who should not have been there in the first place could & were shot for desertion .
          Please keep me posted. Sincerely Jackie