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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 March 14 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Possibly if you enter the names shown on the family tree (linked by rosball) into your search engine, you may be helped to make contact with living descendants of your people.

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 March 14 02:49 GMT (UK) »
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in 1916, Harry Maskens married Lilian Warby.

Births Sep 1917   
MASKENS    Eileen G    Warby    Southwark    1d/114
    
Births Dec 1921 
MASKENS Joan M    Warby    Marylebone 1a/768

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He married Laura Summers in Dec 1921

Laura's second marriage in NSW

8768/1931    
SCOTT    Philip O B    
DE MASKENS Laura      
District Petersham

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 March 14 09:07 GMT (UK) »
I think it would be worth having a look at his RAF record:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8204544  (downloadable)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C12397658 (not downloadable)

May give you some idea of what he was up to and where in the years leading up to his second marriage.
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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 15 March 14 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Sue, I did get in contact with a person (linked by rosball) who kindly replied and although they could not help me I did find out a few things about Harry's son that I did not know. I have seen  some public family trees on Ancestry that include Harry Maskins (Sr.) and when I re-join Ancestry I will try to contact the owners of the trees.

Cando, it seems that Harry and Lilian’s second daughter Joan was born close to the time when Harry Edward De Gratte Maskens married in Dec 1921. It is surprising but still possible that the two Harry’s are the same person. Because of this information about Harry and Lilian’s daughters my (soon-to-be 85 year old mother) has found out for the first time who she was named after.

Jorose I was wondering about Harry’s contribution to the war and this pinpoints his location in 1918.

Thank you for all of this helpful information.

oze


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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 15 March 14 04:38 GMT (UK) »
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Cando, it seems that Harry and Lilian’s second daughter Joan was born close to the time when Harry Edward De Gratte Maskens married in Dec 1921. It is surprising but still possible that the two Harry’s are the same person. Because of this information about Harry and Lilian’s daughters my (soon-to-be 85 year old mother) has found out for the first time who she was named after.

The Queensland 1921 marriage certificate will list Harry's age, place of birth, parents' names, mother's maiden name and father's occupation.  You can search and purchase online.
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m

Cheers  :)
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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 15 March 14 04:58 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate will also show Harry's marital status at the time of this marriage  ;D :-\
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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 15 March 14 06:10 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit confused here

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Because of this information about Harry and Lilian’s daughters my (soon-to-be 85 year old mother) has found out for the first time who she was named after.
Oze

Your mother who is soon to celebrate her 85th birthdays was born c1929 in the UK or Aus?

Is this marriage correct then?

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Marriages Mar 1936   
Chubb  Lilian M     
To
De Maskens  Harry E  at  Paddington  1a /09
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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 15 March 14 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Cando and Sue,

Thank you again for your replies. I didn’t know that there was so much information given on Australian marriage certificates so ordering one sounds like a good idea. I hope Harry was truthful when it was filled in.

My mother was born in England. Harry Maskens was born in London in 1894, the same year that his father died. Harry’s mother (my great-grandmother) married my great-grandfather in 1903. My grandmother was born a few years later. The family rumour is that my great-grandmother suspected that Harry had a family in Australia but returned to England without them. My mother asked me if I could find evidence that he had lived in Australia. My mother knew that Harry had also married in England and had two daughters but thought that he married when he returned from Australia. She didn’t know the daughters names and, although the daughters are not much older than she is, one of them has her name. It looks like Harry married three times so the information about his marriage to Lilian Chubb in 1936 looks correct. My mother met Harry at least on one occasion with family in London just after WWII finished. I am trying to determine whether the Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens who married Laura Summers in Queensland in 1921 is our Harry Maskens from London. Harry’s name is recorded many different ways on English records. All of the information about his life in Australia is new to us.

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Re: Harry Edward de Gratte Maskens
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 15 March 14 22:36 GMT (UK) »
I didn’t know that there was so much information given on Australian marriage certificates so ordering one sounds like a good idea. I hope Harry was truthful when it was filled in.


oze

Adding to Cando's suggestion there about the certificate.

This link, already given to you,describes how to acquire the certificate.  The good news is there is a not an ordering process.
You simply pay online (about $20 I think), and then download the image to your computer immediately.

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births

And just for your interest this is what is expected to show on a QLD marriage certificate in case you do not know.

Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences
Fathers' names
Fathers' occupations
Groom's mothers name
Bride's mothers name


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