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Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« on: Monday 10 March 14 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Dear All
Can anybody advise a date for this photo.  Birth Dates are 1851 for Gideon and 1854 for Maggie.  They lived in the Scottish Borders, he was a successful woollen manufacturer and she was mother to 8 children and did a lot of work for charity and bred dogs.  They married in 1877.  The photo is rather unusual as it's printed on very thin paper and the original is rather creased and torn (I've cropped and tidied this up) The photo is taken outside their house "Eastfield" in Galashiels, which they bought in 1881, could it have been taken to celebrate the purchase?

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Just bumping this up as it's going down the list. Hi Gmac, for what it's worth, I think this is later than 1881.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Agree with Seoras, given the birth dates I would put it around 1890.

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Their dress styles suggest the early part of the 1890's.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Seoras for keeping it near the top - When I looked again their faces, despite the fact they moved during the exposure, they look older than their early thirties / late twenties.  Jim, was there anything specific about the clothing that put the date into the early 1890's

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 23:50 GMT (UK) »
His waistcoat with the separate button-hole for his watch chain dates it after 1888.
Her jacket with the raised shoulder dates it 1889-93.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 March 14 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everybody - and Jim those details are fascinating - With access to as much cloth as they fancied I suspect they kept up with fashion

Gavin

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 March 14 11:14 GMT (UK) »
As this doesn't appear to be a CdeV taken professionally by the way you describe it & as their faces are slightly blurred my guess is that this was taken by a friend.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Photo for Dating - Gideon & Maggie Brown
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 March 14 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Their eldest son - William Brown was a keen amateur photographer - He was born in 1878 so if this was 1890-2 he would have been 12-14 - it is possible but maybe unlikely that he took it.

He was a doctor and worked for a while on the Shetland Islands.  My grandfather donated a lot of the slides he took in the early 1900's to the Shetland Museum and they are now online.  This is William

http://photos.shetland-museum.org.uk/index.php?a=advanced&s=item&key=XYToxOntzOjEyOiJQSE9UT0dSQVBIRVIiO3M6ODoiQnJvd24sIFciO30=&pg=134

Gavin