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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nessie,

I have discovered a few tidbits of information, but nothing that has led to any major breakthrough. I have managed to unearth a bit more information about my 3X great grandfather, John's, time in Scotland.

I have a couple of accademic articles and thesis, including B. W. Andrzejewski, S. Pilaszewicz, W. Tyloch (1985: 588), Sass, F.W. (1956: 47), and Shell, S.C.T.R. (2006: 206) that state John was born on 26 October 1796 in Glasgow in Lanarkshire in Scotland. His death notice, drawn up by his son, also states that he was born in Glasgow, and that his parents were James Bennie and Margaret Scott.

Scott, H. (1928: 561)  states in the Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae  the Succession of Ministers in the Church of Scotland From the Reformation - Volume VII, John "was probably the son of James B. merchant, Haddington, educated at Univ. of Glasgow. Of his time in Glasgow it further states that he was set apart in the North Albion Street Chapel on 23 Jan 1821.

I have found no other link to Haddington, although it is possible that his son perhaps presumed that he was born in Glasgow as I do believe that his death notice was the source for many of the academics that wrote about him. I have not been able to find the James Bennie of Haddington and would question why he would be referred to as being from Haddington if he was in Glasgow from at least the time of Thomas' birth.

Sass, F.W. (1956:47) records that in December 1814, John was received as a member of ``the Church in Campbell Street.'' He would have been 18 years of age at the time. Where the rest of his family were at this point is unclear. I have no indication that the family were with him, I doubt it as my understanding is is that the church is near the university, and according to Scott, H. (1928, 561), John was educated at the University of Glasgow. It is thus possible that even if the family was in Glasgow at the time, he was possibly received at a church closer to were he moved to to be near the uni.

According to B. W. Andrzejewski, S. Pilaszewicz, W. Tyloch (1985, 588), John became a member of the Glasgow Missionary Society in 1816. He would have been 20 years old at the time of joining.

John would later cut his studies short so that he could travel to the Cape Colony as a missionary catechist. According to Scott, H (1928, 561), John was "set apart" in the North Albion Street Chapel on 23 January 1821.

Thank you for your continued interest,

Duncan


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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Duncan

Mention here of father James being a a metal smith from Glasgow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bennie_(missionary)

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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 November 16 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Monica  ;)

Unfortunately that line is not referenced so I am unable to find where that information was obtained from.

Duncan ;D

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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 November 16 20:12 GMT (UK) »
We could wade through some of the early Post Office Directories for Glasgow looking for any sign of James Bennie  ::)... See www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Glasgow

Click on 'view book online' option and then use the scroller button at the bottom to flick through quickly or search box top right. Remember to check for variants to Bennie such as the most common Binnie.

Have you looked this possible OPR death/burial on Scotlands People?:

James BENNIE, age 40 died in Glasgow on 12/02/1800. Ref 644/1640 79

There may also be an occupation showing on the OPR entry for John in 1796 and son Thomas in 1798?
   
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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 November 16 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Having a quick look through some of the directories (search function works really well). There does not seems to be many /anyJames Bennies showing really (a number of John and Williams showing most years). There is one James in 1813 who shows as a spirit merchant. Also one in 1822 where that James shows as a Beadle at St John's Church www.archive.org/stream/glasgowdirectory1822glas#page/44/mode/2up/search/bennie. A number of sites showing a description of a church beadle, such as here www.victorianlondon.org/professions/beadles.htm

Further referece to Beadle James in 1831, now at St James' Church www.archive.org/stream/postofficeannual183132uns#page/n49/mode/2up/search/bennie

No idea if this James is potentially connected though  ;)

Added:  Beadle James too young to be father to John. He shows here in 1841:

James Bennie 50 beadle to parish church b. Scotland
Elizabeth Burnstein 20 servant

Address:  Glasgow St James

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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 November 16 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Duncan, from all of the research sources you have, has anyone quoted any direct reference to John's time at Glasgow University? I can see a number of Bennies showing in their archives, www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/people/?start=550&max=50&o=&l=b but no John. (Binnies here http://www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/people/?start=650&max=50&o=&l=b).

You could contact the Archive Services there via email and make some enquiries?

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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 November 16 22:24 GMT (UK) »

.....the son of James B. merchant, Haddington, educated at Univ. of Glasgow. Of his time in Glasgow it further states that he was set apart in the North Albion Street Chapel on 23 Jan 1821.

I have found no other link to Haddington

John, son of James Bennie, a smith, and Margaret Scott was born/christened (? can't tell which) in Glasgow on 17 October 1796. Sponsors a John Scott and a James Ramage. Full ref from SP OPRs is 644/1190 301 See snip below:


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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for this Monica, does it mention John's brother Thomas? He is my 5 X great grandfather

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Re: BENNIE family - Lanarkshire
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 November 16 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nessie, there is an image from the Old Parish Register for Thomas from 1798 to parents James and Margaret (Scott) on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

it is indexed as:

Thomas BENNIE, JAMES BENNIE/MARGARET SCOTT
06/07/1798
Ref: 644/1190 391
Glasgow

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