Flora Grundy, Tasmania

[Walcha72]

Hi Kalli,

Nice to hear from another Grundy relative.

I'm not sure how much I'll be able to clear up for you.  Most of the information I have on the older generations of the Grundy's is from a cousin who invested a lot of time in researching, buying certificates and going through parish registers in the UK.

I have only been given Maria Hales as the mother of all 8 Grundy children.  She is the daughter of John Hales and Mary Farmers.  If John and Maria married, it would have been in Berkshire, England.  The 6 oldest children were born in Shrivenham, Berkshire and the 2 youngest in Longford, Tasmania. 

I haven't been able to track down the death details for Maria.

I haven't done much on the Grundy's for quite a while and have a few gaps to fill in.

Sorry this isn't much help, but I'm very happy to sure what information I have on the Grundy family with you.

Debbie

[Dundee]

Perhaps the HALES/WILLIS thing is just an error in hearing the name incorrectly?

The marriage between John GRUNDY and Maria HALE was in 1825 at Shrivenham.  This index by the Shrivenham Heritage Society is titled "Banns - only those not in the marriage register" and I am not sure if that means the actual marriages do not appear in the register because I can't find any of these marriages indexed in the usual places online.  The title that it is linked from says "Shrivenham Marriages (including banns where the marriage took place elsewhere) from 1755 to 1961"  Maria is of Uffington parish but I can't see a marriage there either.

http://www.shrivenhamheritagesociety.co.uk/downloads/register---shrivenham-marriages-1755-1961.pdf

http://www.shrivenhamheritagesociety.co.uk/listing.asp?listID=1230

Listed here living at Watchfield in 1841:

http://www.shrivenhamheritagesociety.co.uk/downloads/watchfield-census-1841.pdf

They arrived in Tas in 1842 with children William, Mary Ann, and four younger ones not named.  The youngest is Maria Elizabeth born in 1842.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NY4S-RQZ

GRUNDY,  Maria Elizabeth
Registration District: Faringdon
Volume 6  Page  189

Because she was born eight years after their previous child it might be worth getting her birth cert to confirm the mother's maiden surname and make sure she wasn't a different Maria.

Joseph's birth in 1848 clearly gives Maria's maiden surname as WILLIS but it is possible that it was just heard incorrectly.  Frederick's birth doesn't give a maiden surname.

http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-27-p508j2k

http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-27-p489j2k

There is an article here from 1876 that I think could be Maria:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/72520547

It says that she was living with her son at the Slate Quarry, and when John died two years earlier his son Frederick was "of the Slate Quarries".  It gives her age as 'about 70 years'.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52893130

A possible death at the New Norfolk Asylum in 1885.

http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-54p136j2k

Though the circumstances fit, Maria would have been closer to 80 years and I don't know where the 'Adelaide' has come from.  Plenty of records have survived and the admission registers should name a family member.

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB365

You can contact the archives and ask for a search and copy of the entry in the admission register.

http://sltas.altarama.com/reft100.aspx?pmi=lEHn0AKCZG

Debra 

[Walcha72]

Hi Debra,

I apologise for not getting back to you sooner, especially when you have found so much in such a short space of time. As with a lot of things, you just need to know where to look (and have the time - which is a big part of my problem!)

This is going to take a bit of time to digest and work through.

Thanks for all your help.

Debbie

[kalliobryan]

Hi Debra,

I second Debbie. Thanks so much! Don't know how you managed to piece all that together so quickly 

Cheers,
Kalli

[TasGal]

Hi
1. Islington link?? I might have missed something, which has already been covered. I can't find any connection to an Islington with Flora GRUNDY. So why is Flora Islington noted as Aubrey Leonard BUCKs' mother.

2. Aubrey Leonard BUCKs' was definately born in 59 Canning St, Launceston, Tasmania.(His aunt living in Brisbane St, Launceston was the informant of his birth)

Record Type:Births
Gender:Male
Father:Buck, Thomas Lee
Mother:Islington, Flora
Date of birth:30 Nov 1895
Registered:Launceston
Registration year:1895
Document ID:NAME_INDEXES:1057575 Resource RGD33/1/79 no 617 (LINC TAS)

3. Thomas Lee Buck - Baker
I found a marriage record for the same name:

 St Annes Church,Constitution Hill, Green Ponds, Tasmania
 Name: Thomas Lee BUCK (Baker) Record Type: Marriages Gender: Male Age: 34 Spouse: Catharine RHODES (Widow) Gender: Female Age: 41 Date: 22 Sep 1892 Reg: Green Ponds Registration year: 1892 Document ID: NAME_INDEXES:911837 Resource RGD37/1/51 no 14

is this a coincidence with the same name? He's older than Flora's husband, Thomas Lee BUCK, plus her Buck is recorded as younger. Her husband Thomas Lee BUCK didn't hang around for long unfortunately. Flora went on to have two illegitimate children  (Florence 'Flossie' Kathleen AUSTIN (nee BUCK) 1912 – 2003, then  Frank BUCK 1915 – ) before marrying  my 2nd great grand uncle William RILEY (1876 – 1949) abt 1918, then has another child Henry 'Tom' RILEY 1918 – 

I hope this helps solve some issues.  TRG

[Walcha72]

Hi TasGal,

I am still working through various bits of this family and haven't had a chance to work through this particular mystery yet.

Thanks for the info and confirmation of Flora and William RILEY.

Hopefully this weekend I'll find some time to have a better look.

Debbie

[jaybelnz]

I may have a connection into the Hales Tasmania family.

My connection is a Potter/Hales marriage, John Cochrane Potter to Fanny Potter Family.

John Cochrane Potter, Canon Potter's eldest son, married Fanny Mary Hales, the 3rd daughter of Archdeacon Francis Hales. Launceston, Tasmania, John Cochrane Potter eldest son of the Rev. Canon Potter and Rebecca Cochrane of Melbourne,

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[majm]

I may have a connection into the Hales Tasmania family.

My connection is a Potter/Hales marriage, John Cochrane Potter to Fanny Potter Family.

John Cochrane Potter, Canon Potter's eldest son, married Fanny Mary Hales, the 3rd daughter of Archdeacon Francis Hales. Launceston, Tasmania, John Cochrane Potter eldest son of the Rev. Canon Potter and Rebecca Cochrane of Melbourne,

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Here is the image of that marriage 24 April 1889.   https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-48p219j2k

Cheers,  JM

[jaybelnz]

Thanks MAJM, I didn't have that one! 

Canon Robert Potter's brother, Archeacon John Potter of Ballarat, was married to Sarah Annie Mathews in Ireland, before they came to Australia. Sarah was the sister of John Gibbons Mathews, my 3rd great grandfather.

I have quite a good collection about the Potter family, happy to share. Recently been working on John Cochrane Potter ancestors and descendants.  If there are any questions about them, maybe I can help, particularly ancestors, still working on descendants.

Jeanne