Author Topic: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?  (Read 984 times)

Offline somersetlass

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 42
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« on: Friday 28 February 14 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone offer an opinion/theory please?

Whilst researching for a friend I came across a birth registered in 1911 Q4 twice, same names, same mother's maiden name, the only small difference in the reference are the page numbers.  One was 37 and the other 2.  (Page entry 37 listed first)
Now I know this baby was born in August so can understand why the registration appears in Q4.
Could this be linked to the fact the mother was going through a divorce and had this baby with her new partner?  Maybe the first registration was incorrect in some way?

Hoping someone can shed some light for me.
It simply takes      “One act of Random Kindness at a time”      to change the world


Research areas:
mainly Devon and Somerset
but also South Wales, Sussex, Sheffield, Northern Ireland, Fifeshire

Names:
Marshall & Goldsworthy; Bass & Nicol; Worden & Hobbs; Noble & Haste
Woodberry & Chorley; Moon & Hart; Brice & Richards; Denham & Honeybun

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 February 14 09:19 GMT (UK) »
It will be indexed twice, not necessarily registered twice, have you looked at the original page? it could be the transcribers could not be sure of the page number. You had 42 days to register a birth, so a late August birth could easily be registered in the beginning of October.

Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline somersetlass

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 42
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 February 14 11:07 GMT (UK) »
The original page viewed on line is the printed list published by GRO so I guess the transcription of that originated from what was sent in from the district concerned (whether that was typed or written?) so maybe "unsure of page number" could be the answer.  I hadn't thought it just could be "indexed twice, not necessarily registered twice".
It simply takes      “One act of Random Kindness at a time”      to change the world


Research areas:
mainly Devon and Somerset
but also South Wales, Sussex, Sheffield, Northern Ireland, Fifeshire

Names:
Marshall & Goldsworthy; Bass & Nicol; Worden & Hobbs; Noble & Haste
Woodberry & Chorley; Moon & Hart; Brice & Richards; Denham & Honeybun

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 February 14 11:29 GMT (UK) »
The GRO volume and page number has nothing to do with the the Register Office that sent in the quarterly return. These are added after indexing by the GRO. Can you give the details as it is  easier to give an opinion if the original entries can be seen.

Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline somersetlass

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 42
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 February 14 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Stan

These are the two entries:

Q4 1911
STARLING Edwin G  (mother's maiden name PLASTER)  Southampton, 2C, 37
STARLING Edwin G  (mother's maiden name PLASTER)  Southampton, 2C, 2

See what you think ....

It simply takes      “One act of Random Kindness at a time”      to change the world


Research areas:
mainly Devon and Somerset
but also South Wales, Sussex, Sheffield, Northern Ireland, Fifeshire

Names:
Marshall & Goldsworthy; Bass & Nicol; Worden & Hobbs; Noble & Haste
Woodberry & Chorley; Moon & Hart; Brice & Richards; Denham & Honeybun

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 February 14 12:07 GMT (UK) »
I think it is the same birth, and there were two returns from the Southampton Registrar for it. It could be that the birth was registered twice by different people. You would need to see the certificates to see if the informant was different on each one.

Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline somersetlass

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 42
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 February 14 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Stan for your input, much appreciated, it's given me a different slant on this anomaly.  SS
It simply takes      “One act of Random Kindness at a time”      to change the world


Research areas:
mainly Devon and Somerset
but also South Wales, Sussex, Sheffield, Northern Ireland, Fifeshire

Names:
Marshall & Goldsworthy; Bass & Nicol; Worden & Hobbs; Noble & Haste
Woodberry & Chorley; Moon & Hart; Brice & Richards; Denham & Honeybun

Offline stanmapstone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,798
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 February 14 12:53 GMT (UK) »
I have corrected my post to say I think it is the same birth, and there were two returns from the Southampton Registrar for it. It could be that the birth was registered twice by different people. You would need to see the certificates to see if the informant was different on each one.

Stan
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline somersetlass

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 42
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Same two birth registrations in one quarter - why?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 February 14 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again, will leave my friend to decide whether to get both certificates!  SS
It simply takes      “One act of Random Kindness at a time”      to change the world


Research areas:
mainly Devon and Somerset
but also South Wales, Sussex, Sheffield, Northern Ireland, Fifeshire

Names:
Marshall & Goldsworthy; Bass & Nicol; Worden & Hobbs; Noble & Haste
Woodberry & Chorley; Moon & Hart; Brice & Richards; Denham & Honeybun