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MADDEN - IRELAND; IRVING - CUMBERLAND
« on: Friday 28 February 14 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I'm new to the list so a little unsure of what to do where. I hope someone can help me with this request. Many thanks.

Looking for birth and birth place of  Mary Elizabeth MADDEN born circa 1837-1839 - Ireland. 
Father:  Thomas MADDEN   Mother:  Unknown.


Have the following information form a family tree:
1858 Marriage in Adelaide (at Wesleyan Mission - rec 36/156) 
of Thomas IRVING aged recorded as 35   
to Mary Elizabeth MADDEN  age recorded as 19


THOMAS IRVIN
Christening: 07 MAY 1819 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England
Father: THOMAS IRVIN Family
Mother: JANE
Source Information:
Batch No.: C011873

By 1877 they are reordered in Blanch Town South Aust
Child Jesse Core' IRVING 26 Jan 1877 Father was abt 58 Mother was abt 39
Mary Elizabeth b abt 1838 Ireland.



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Re: MADDEN - IRELAND; IRVING - CUMBERLAND
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 February 14 10:36 GMT (UK) »
We may be able to find the maiden name of Jane Irvin ...
siblings of Thomas - also baptised at St Michaels ,Workington ,Cumberland
 father Thomas / mother Jane
Elizabeth Irvin 25th june 1809
Richard Irvin 11th dec 1814
John Irvin 11th aug 1816
Jane Irvin 7th may 1819
Thomas Irvin 7th may 1819...both the same day...........so - between 1809 - 1814 is 5 years ..maybe Jane and was born between 1809 and 1814 but not baptised - so was  baptised with Thomas ...or were they Twins..?

17th May 1807 Thomas Irving to Jane Brown in Camerton,Cumberland might be the parents marriage ??   I will see how close Workington is to Camerton
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXKF-VW5
ADDED....That marriage of Thomas Irvin to Jane Brown now looks  likely ....Camerton is 3 miles north of Workington ...good news
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: MADDEN - IRELAND; IRVING - CUMBERLAND
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 February 14 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Was Mary Madden a prisoner when she arrived in Australia ??
could this be her aged 16 in 1854 ? - birthplace Longford, Ireland ...I will see where that is
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMQZ-XMD

if you think it might be your Mary Madden - there is a Genealogy link in Longford Town to help trace ancestors
http://www.ireland.com/en-gb/destinations/republic-of-ireland/longford/longford/all/1-46943
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: MADDEN - IRELAND; IRVING - CUMBERLAND
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 March 14 06:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your help with the Thomas Irving and Mary Madden.  It appears that both could be correct connections. Thomas definitely. Thank you for the extra info.
Because of your help I have also found one other prisoner who was born in the same year 1838, same prison, different birthplace so will check these both out.
Many thanks