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Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« on: Thursday 27 February 14 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Researching, for my son, a Nellie Marie Agnes Guthoff born in August of 1872 in Pennsylvania.  She married a Charles W. REEN in 1890, Philadelphia.  I believe she was adopted.  Her biological father's name is Floyd Baker IRISH, born September 1853, New York.

No luck in the 1880 US Census for Nellie or Floyd.  I know what Nellie did after she married Charles REEN and have a good fix on Floyd after 1890, but have no idea on who the GUTHOFFs were.

Any ideas out there?
Michael
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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 February 14 23:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Might this be Floyd in 1880??


1880 Census USA Kansas Shawnee Topeka
Roll 397  District 004  Page 70B
Madison Street

OLLIVER
L.J. White Female aged 48 Keeping Boarders Born in Ohio Both parents born in Ohio
CONNOR Mary Female aged 68 Mother to L.J. WHITE Born in Ohio Both parents born in MD
IRISH Floyd P Male aged 27 Son in Law to L.J. WHITE Born in New York Both parents born in New York
IRISH M.J. Female aged 21 Wife of Floyd P IRISH Born in Illinois Father born in New Jersey Mother born in Ohio

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Karenlee
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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 February 14 23:42 GMT (UK) »
1860 Census USA New York Hamburg Erie
Roll M653_751   Page 406  Image 409
White's Corner

IRISH
Ira E aged 56 Male Attorney at Law Born in New York
Louisa G aged 49 Female Born in New York
Albert E aged 22 Male Teacher ?? School Born in New York
Floyd B aged 9 Male Born in New York
Ira E aged 6 Male Born in New York


Marriage Register
Buffalo and Vicinity Erie New York
27th Sept 1836
Ira Edward IRISH
Louisa Garalda BAKER


Cheers
Karenlee

Modified thanks to Shelly
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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 February 14 14:10 GMT (UK) »
1880 Census USA New York Hamburg Erie
Roll M653_751   Page 406  Image 409
White's Corner

IRISH
Ira E aged 56 Male Attorney at Law Born in New York
Louisa G aged 49 Female Born in New York
Albert E aged 22 Male Teacher ?? School Born in New York
Floyd B aged 9 Male Born in New York
Ira E aged 6 Male Born in New York

I think there may have been a typo, because this one looks like 1860.

A record from a New York County almshouse for Floyd B. Irish from 23 May 1907 states that his parents were Ira E. Irish (a lawyer) and Matilda Baker.  Floyd was age 55, a widower, last resided 190 Park Row, New York City, occupation - printer, had rheumatism, unable to perform labor, and was destitute.

This indicates Ira E. Irish was an assemblyman - http://wnyroots.tripod.com/index-ham-town.html

There seem to be a number of newspaper articles referencing Ira E. Irish on www.fultonhistory.com.  There is one article from 1907 about the golden anniversary of Mr. & Mrs. T. Jefferson Smith.  It said Mrs. Smith was the daughter of the Honorable Ira E. Irish, who was a well-known lawyer practicing in the office of Millard Fillmore.  (Presumably the same Millard Fillmore who later became US president.)


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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 March 14 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks all,

I already had some of your lookups...but there were also a few bits that you provided that were new.  By the way, I am quite sure that the Kansas Floyd. B. Irish is "mine" as his maternal uncle was also living in Topeka and was a quite prominent business man.

Michael
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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 May 14 12:31 BST (UK) »
Again, thanks to all who commented.  I have confirmed, to my satisfaction, that the references that you provided are all indeed relating to the Floyd Baker Irish who I am researching.

Recently I discovered that he can be traced back to a John Irish who arrived in Plymouth Colony in 1629/30!!  What fun!!

But, although I am convinced that he is the father of Nellie Marie Agnes (nee Irish) Guthoff, I ahve yet to find any documentation for her, i.e. birth record, adoption information etc.  I believed that Floyd B. father her about late 1871 or early 1872 and that she was born in Pennsylvania and was perhaps adopted by the Guthoff's (or perhaps a Guthoff was her mother).  At any rate she married Charles William Reen in Philadelphia 1890 and died in Detroit about 1948.  I have the 1900 and later U.S. Census entries.

Any help with her birth, adoption or life in Phily will be appreciated.
Gilbert  - Surrey, Gloucestshire, England
Charge - Surrey, Buckinghamshire, England
Pilgrim - Berkshire, Surrey, England
Bundy - Wiltshire, Surrey, England
Tomasik - Michigan, US; Poland
Reen - Philadelphia, US; Geseke, Germany

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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 May 14 13:26 BST (UK) »
If you don't have her death record, there is a Wayne Co. death index for that time frame- http://www.detroitpubliclibrary.org/wayne-county-death-record-index  I tried looking for her, but I was unsuccessful.

You may also want to check the Michigan death certificates here - https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1968532

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Re: Nellie Marie Agnes GUTHOFF b. August 1872 Pennsylvania
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 May 14 16:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you SO, SO, much.   The michigan reference gave me a hit on her and also some information about her foster parents which I didn-t have.....again THANK YOU

Michael
Gilbert  - Surrey, Gloucestshire, England
Charge - Surrey, Buckinghamshire, England
Pilgrim - Berkshire, Surrey, England
Bundy - Wiltshire, Surrey, England
Tomasik - Michigan, US; Poland
Reen - Philadelphia, US; Geseke, Germany