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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 February 14 13:32 GMT (UK) »
The only way to be really certain would be to get one of their children's birth certificates - that would give her maiden name.
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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 February 14 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Groom, I agree that the birth certificate seems to be the way to go.  I will send for my Gt Grandads, already have his marriage cert.  Thanks to everyone for their help, I will post again once I have received the certificate, and probably need more help!

The thing I love about this forum is that you often get answers which turn your thinking upside down, and send you in different directions, and everyone is so helpful.  Thanks again.
Leicestershire: Gowan, Bent.
Durham: Bolton, Richardson, Morgan, Doxford, Corner, Chisholm, Smithson, Shields, Stark, Hutton, Heckles.
Co Wexford, Ireland and Canada: Gowan

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 February 14 14:08 GMT (UK) »
My replies #3 and #5 to your original enquiry seem to have been ignored   :'(
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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 February 14 14:27 GMT (UK) »
My replies #3 and #5 to your original enquiry seem to have been ignored   :'(

I think that it would be very worthwhile to read Replies #3 and #5. Jennifer is one of the most thorough Northumberland & Durham searchers on this forum.

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 22 February 14 16:15 GMT (UK) »
The posts regarding Mushroom by you, JenB were certainly not ignored, they answered my query perfectly, and given me a new area to investigate.  As I said in my last post, this is what i love about this forum, we end up going in a different direction to that anticipated.

Thanks again to everyone who answered the query.
Leicestershire: Gowan, Bent.
Durham: Bolton, Richardson, Morgan, Doxford, Corner, Chisholm, Smithson, Shields, Stark, Hutton, Heckles.
Co Wexford, Ireland and Canada: Gowan

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 February 14 20:38 GMT (UK) »
   I would like to say thank you too, for I have oft times pondered upon a phrase in a Geordie song I have on a record somewhere.   The song mentions 'the mushrooms' and I had no idea what it meant.   Now I'm trying to remember what the name of the song was ???
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 March 14 10:01 GMT (UK) »
I received the certificate this morning, and the Mother is Hannah Varley.  Plenty to go at now, I had discounted her in my thoughts, partly because of the George Batey "marriage", and partly because I recall my Grandmother talking about Hannah Bell.  Just shows, you have to check!

Thanks once again for all your help.
Leicestershire: Gowan, Bent.
Durham: Bolton, Richardson, Morgan, Doxford, Corner, Chisholm, Smithson, Shields, Stark, Hutton, Heckles.
Co Wexford, Ireland and Canada: Gowan

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 March 14 19:17 GMT (UK) »
      I have also found the recitation about The Mushrooms that I had on my record 60 years ago.   This was partly by chance for I was researching Ryton and so came across the most excellent Blaydon Burn History web page by Geordie Singer Roly Veitch - http://www.rolyveitch.20m.com/BlaydonBurn.html

      Thinking that he may know about that old recitation I asked and he found it.   It is called "A Tow For Nowt" and it is in this long list of old Geordie sangs - http://www.archive.org/stream/allansillustrat00firgoog/allansillustrat00firgoog_djvu.txt

       The Copyright has long expired and so it can be reproduced as long as not used for financial gain:

A TOW FOR NOWT.

Oh, wor cargo we'd got oot, away doon at Whitehill Spoot;
But the wind an' tide wis both on them contrairy, O!
An' it seemed we'd hae te lie till the tide wis comin' high,
So the keel we moored, an' leuked aboot se wary, O.

Chorus,
So the keel we moored, etc.

Just then, te wor delight, a tugboat hove i' sight,
An' backed astarn close by where we wor stannin', O.
Ses aa, noo aa'l accost hor! so aa hailed, 'Hey, Mistor Forster,
Wad ye gie's a tow as far up as wo'r gannin', O ? "

Then the tugboat-maistor torned, an' he leuked, an' kinda gorned,
Ses he, "Hoo dis thoo knaa they caal me Forster, O ? "
"Man," ses aa, "yor dad afore wis a chep aa did adore,
An' yo'r just like him, maa canny Mistor Forster, O."

Iv a frindly kind o' way, aa got a tow that day;
An' off we set, wi' nowt at aal te cost hor, O.
Aa bargaint wivoot doot, as aa past wor towlin' oot,
"At the Mushroom hoy hor off, please Mistor Forster, O."

So we cam' up spankin' fine, an' past aal on the Tyne —
Sic a tow for nowt aa waddent then he lost hor, O.
An' we just hed past The Geuse, an' aa thowt o' gettin' lowse;
So, ses aa, "Just hoy hor off, please Mistor Forster, O."

Wi' the tiller 'tween his legs, just like twee wooden pegs.
He nivvor torned, but oney went the faster, O.
Aa shoots oot, "Here we are, yor gannin' ower far;
Aa telt ye 'twas the Mushroom, Mistor Forster, O ! "

What wis deein noo wis clear, so aa couldn't help but sweer.
" Yo'r a bad 'un, yo'r as bad as ony coster, O !
An' so wis yor aad dad — gosh, he wis just as bad !
Where the smash, man, are ye towin's te, ye Forster, O ? "

But it aal wis o' nee use, owther sweerin' or abuse;
For a joke there Forster steud as deef as dummy, O ;
An' he waddent hoy us free till past Newcastle Quay,
So, thinks aa, a tow for nowt is sometimes rummy, O !
                             Richard Oliver Heslop 1882.

     Roly's Blaydon Burn web page actually solved another mystery, that of my Oliver ancestors and places they lived around 1750.     I'll tell that story on a new topic.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Robert Ritcherdson birthplace query
« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 March 14 19:25 GMT (UK) »
   Perhaps I should add that one of the ancestors who lived at Ryton was born Susannah Richardson, so I'm on the hunt for Richardson's now.   She married Matthew Oliver, but died in 1783 just two months after her daughter died.   Matthew lived on until 1807 when he was living at Byker Hill in Newcastle.  They brought him back to Ryton for his burial.   I would like to think that they carried him by boat to Ryton Willows where the big battle was fought in 1640 between an invading Scots army and a handful of English defenders.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields