John Wardle

[Cumberland Lad]

Looking for information on John Wardle born 1865 in Lancashire. I cannot find him on the 1871/1881/1891 census. He turns up on the 1901 census in Cumberland, on the census it states he was born Manchester. In 1899 he married Mary Elizabeth Simpson (Finlinson) at Rosley Church in Cumberland. On the marriage certificate it has his father as Reuben Wardle. On the 1911 census it states his place of birth is Rochdale Lancashire. I have not been able to connect John to any Reuben anywhere. Hope there is someone out there that maybe able to help. 

[garstonite]

I am a bit confused
John Wardle born 1865
but says born 1899 on 1901 census
did you mean that REUBEN WARDLE was b 1865 ??.....if so -is this him ??

Baptism: 31 Dec 1865 St Wilfrid, Standish, Lancashire, England
 Reuben Wardell? - [Child] of William Wardell? & Eliza
     Abode: Standish
     Occupation: Collier
     Baptised by: W H Brandreth Rector
     http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
 
ADDED...OK - sorry .....I misread your post ...
John Wardle b 1865 Manchester or Rochdale
married in Manchester in 1899
1865 WARDLE   .. John      ..Hulme, Manchester   HUL/125/14
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk      could this be him ??

could this be a brother of John Wardle ??
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMTH-LVR

[garstonite]

I wonder if this is Reuben the fathers marriage in February 1865 -in Ardwick, Manchester ??
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/233T-ZLV

a John Wardle being born in december quarter 1865 later in the year in Chorlton,Manchester according to www.freebmd.org.uk ??

also in Chorlton -   ..  Death     dec qtr 1895 aged 52   WARDLE Reuben    Chorlton  8c 653

[Sharon01]

Hi,

The Nehemiah Chadwick Wardle mentioned by garstonite seems to be with his Grandparents (the Hills) in 1871.
RG10/4090/66/19

Sharon

[Sharon01]

1881. Ashton Under Lyne


Hope Hill  66 Head widower born Broadbottom, Cheshire
Ellen Hill  17 dau born Broadbottom, Cheshire
Betty Wardle  37 cotton weaver married born Broadbottom, Cheshire
Emmanuel Wardle  14 grandson born Broadbottom, Cheshire

RG11/4060/65/17
 



 

[garstonite]

as it looks like Reuben didn`t die until 1895 - in Chorlton ...I would say Sharons find of wife Elizabeth Hill ( Betty Wardle in 1881 census ) is a great find - so - did Reuben and John Wardle work away - or maybe they were sailors ??
What occupation were
Reuben Wardle
John Wardle - on Johns Marriage Certificate

by coincidence ...my grandmother was born in Broadbottom ....a lovely place

[Sharon01]

Reuben is with the Warrington family in 1871.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZP6-SVN

Sharon

[garstonite]

Thanks Sharon - did you notice it is Chorlton and underneath it says Ardwick District ...so the Marriage of Reuben Wardle to Elisabeth Hill in February 1865 in ARDWICK - and the birth of John Wardle dec qtr 1865 in Chorlton,ARDWICK now look to be the John and Reuben Wardle that Cumberland Lad is looking for -
but why does John say Rochdale born in 1911 census - that`s the only thing that stops it being a definite - ??

[Sharon01]

Thanks Sharon - did you notice it is Chorlton and underneath it says Ardwick District ...so the Marriage of Reuben Wardle to Elisabeth Hill in February 1865 in ARDWICK - and the birth of John Wardle dec qtr 1865 in Chorlton,ARDWICK now look to be the John and Reuben Wardle that Cumberland Lad is looking for -
but why does John say Rochdale born in 1911 census - that`s the only thing that stops it being a definite - ??

I agree but can not see any other family that ties in. Also no sign of John anywhere before 1901, tried looking under the name of Hill but nothing stands out.

Sharon