Taylor family from Scotland

[Annette7]

Yes, sorry Leanne - marriage should read 1878 not 1858.

Annette

[Annette7]

The marriage date looks like 1st Jan. 1861 Tollcross Manse and you'll note that the birth entry above also shows that parents married at this place.

Think that sometimes people just couldn't remember exactly when they married.   Dates didn't seem to have the significance that they do nowadays.

No more credits left so can't check on the marriage certificate of William Collins and Ann Hendrie 30/12/1859.

Annette

[Annette7]

If you google Tollcross Manse you'll find a site come up that list lots of photos.   Was at Parkhead, Glasgow and a bit about the vicar states 'his manse at Parkhead was for many years a busy marrying centre'.

Annette

[Leanne.]

The marriage date looks like 1st Jan. 1861 Tollcross Manse and you'll note that the birth entry above also shows that parents married at this place.

Think that sometimes people just couldn't remember exactly when they married.   Dates didn't seem to have the significance that they do nowadays.

No more credits left so can't check on the marriage certificate of William Collins and Ann Hendrie 30/12/1859.

Annette

I've got credits I'll check that one.

On the Birth certificate is does say father is the informant, so it is possible date is totally wrong 

[Leanne.]

I'm viewing the certificate, how can I prove that Ann Hendrie is Agnes Hendry / henry

[Annette7]

1871 Census shows family living in Shettleston - William's wife shown as Annie - with children Mary 7, William 5 and George 2.

George's birth certificate shows he was born 16/12/1868 Old Monkland, son of William Collins and Annie Hendry - again William is informant but this time correctly shows marriage as 30/12/1859 Tollcross Manse.   Marriage date agrees with marriage found of William and Ann Hendrie.

Think this proves it.

Annette

[Leanne.]

In this instance, William's birth is registered under mothers maiden name and his father is not named:

William Cooper b.1/11/1858 Hamilton, son of Agnes Cooper.

As you can see from 1861 census, it looks like Agnes had had an earlier child by said Charles Taylor too.

Annette

Thank you, how did you know to look for him as William Cooper and not William Taylor ?

[Leanne.]

According to 1861 census in Hamilton they were not married.
 

With no marriage record, is there any other way to keep tracing the family tree back ?

[Annette7]

I simply looked for him on census 1861 - found him and it showed Agnes as Cooper and unmarried.

No birth listed for William in name of Taylor so searched under Cooper (knowing she was unmarried in 1861) and there he was.   There is also no marriage, as you'd already stated, between a Charles Taylor and Agnes Cooper.

As to tracing back Charles Taylor - now that really is a poser.   His occupation, according to William's marriage certificate, is Pattern something - looks like Maker or Weaver.

Unless one is able to find something that seems to fit this you are kind of up a gum tree, so to speak.   At this time, Agnes was born and living in Hamilton so one would suppose Charles was in that area too but cannot find anyone who seems to fit.

Annette