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Offline Leanne.

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Taylor family from Scotland
« on: Wednesday 19 February 14 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Following on from my other thread.

I got a copy of my grand parents marriage certificate, so it has opened up a lot of info and searches for me.  If any one is willing to help me more I will take any help I can get.

I'm stuck on the 1901 census. I think it is my family because on the marriage record it states address as Main street, Shettleston. Census has same address.
William is correct age. His son George is correct age ( don't know any info on siblings at this stage) There is another daughter listed as Agnes and both William and Mary have a mother named Agnes.

The only thing is Mary's ages don't match. On the marriage record in 1878 she is 17 so birth is c 1861.  On the 1901 census age is 37 so born c 1864. Which means she was 14 when she got married and lied about her age. Could that be possible? Did stuff like that happen?

I will post my line of research so far ( in the next post ) just incase anyone is bored and wants to check my work to make sure It's all correct so far. 
Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.

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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Sorry if this thread is in the wrong spot.


Start of research my grand parents marriage record

William Taylor(20) married Elizabeth Raeburn(18) 1938 - Leith Edinburgh

William Taylor's parents are : George Taylor and Rebecca Walker? ( Writing is hard to read )

marriage of George Taylor(20)  to Rebecca Walker(19)  1911 Dysart, Fife.

George's parents are : William Taylor and Mary Collins.

Marriage of William Taylor (20)  and Mary Collins (17) ( Very hard certificate to read ) 1878 Shettleston, Lanark.

William's parents : Charles Taylor and Agnes ? Cooper ? ( This certificate is even harder to read )

Can't find a marriage record for Charles Taylor


Would it help if I posted all the certificates ?
Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.

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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 11:27 GMT (UK) »


The only thing is Mary's ages don't match. On the marriage record in 1878 she is 17 so birth is c 1861.  On the 1901 census age is 37 so born c 1864. Which means she was 14 when she got married and lied about her age. Could that be possible? Did stuff like that happen?


I just found Mary on another tree on ancestry and they have her birth date as 1864 and marriage age as 14 !
Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.

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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Found Mary Collins birth record. b 17th May 1863 so she turned 15 a few months before her wedding.
Census asks for age at last birthday so that all adds up now.
Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.


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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Mary Collins, according to death certificate, was daughter of William Collins and Ann Hendry.  (Marriage certificate states that mother was, what looks like, Agnes Henry!!)

William Collins and Ann Hendrie married 30/12/1859 High Church, Glasgow.   Census shows both of them were born in Ireland.

Mary Collins was born 17/5/1863 Shettleston, dau. of William Collins and Ann Hendry.

This makes Mary 15 1/2 when she married William Taylor on 27/12/1858.   I believe this perfectly legal in Scotland.

As to William Taylor, b.1858 son of Charles Taylor and Agnes Cooper.

According to 1861 census in Hamilton they were not married.  I am only able to view transcripts and it says:

William Steven   41      Silk Weaver         b. Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Elisabeth Steven 58     Tambourer                     ditto
Agnes Cooper  stepdaughter  32   unmarried   Tambourer   b.Hamilton
Alexr. Taylor   grandson    8                    b. Hamilton
William Taylor  grandson   2                           ditto

This seems to be an accepted thing in Scotland - that children born illegitimately more often than not would grow up with the surname of their father.    Sometimes you will find that both parents are named on a birth certificate even though not married, sometimes not.

In this instance, William's birth is registered under mothers maiden name and his father is not named:

William Cooper b.1/11/1858 Hamilton, son of Agnes Cooper.

As you can see from 1861 census, it looks like Agnes had had an earlier child by said Charles Taylor too.

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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Mary Collins, according to death certificate, was daughter of William Collins and Ann Hendry.  (Marriage certificate states that mother was, what looks like, Agnes Henry!!)
 

Yeah on the marriage certificate I have it looks like Henry,  but on Mary's birth certificate that I have it looks like Hendry.

Thank you so much for all that info, just going through it now.
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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:31 GMT (UK) »

William Collins and Ann Hendrie married 30/12/1859 High Church, Glasgow.   Census shows both of them were born in Ireland.
 

On Mary's birth certificate it says parents are William Collins and I think it says Agnes or could be Ann it's so hard to read. marriage details 1861. ( June 1st ? ) I don't know Scotland very well so I can't even take a guess at the place listed, it's so hard to read.
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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:34 GMT (UK) »

This makes Mary 15 1/2 when she married William Taylor on 27/12/1858.   I believe this perfectly legal in Scotland.

1878 ?
Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.

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Re: Taylor family from Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Leanne  :)

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Would it help if I posted all the certificates ?

In short , no , if they are copyright images they will be removed.

You may post small portions of any cert. if you are having difficulty reading the writing.


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