Liverpool - Winstanley

[erinb1983]

I have checked out the 1861 Census that could be a possibility I suppose Winstanley and Stanley it's not a huge jump. I have looked at all the John Winstanley's born in the Liverpool area thanks to the Lancashire parish clerk site but I have found no John's that have parents called Amelia and John.

I am completely lost on this one. It will definitely take more time and research

Thanks so much for everyone's help, it's much appreciated.

[ShaunJ]

The John Stanley from Hemsworth appears to be still in Brightside Bierlow in 1871, married with a young family; so not him it seems. 

[purplekat]

Hi erinb1983

The 1841 census shows a  John Winstanley born in 1839 in Lancashire, however his parents are Thomas b 1811 and Margaret b 1816..  He has a sister called Ann b 1834 and a brother called James b 1837 .  They live at Brownlow's Buildings, Prescot , sutton, Lancashire.  Hope this helps 

[erinb1983]

Thanks for that info, I will check it out

[Chopsuey]

Hi, I think the John Winstanley listed as a watchmaker on the 1847 and 1848-49 census in Geelong, Victoria is probably the father of John Winstanley born Liverpool c1838. Have not been able to find the immigration record for the family, but likely to be under NSW immigration records given it is an early record.  John Winstanley's mother is definitely Amelia on his death certificate, but like you I can find no record of her in Lancashire or Victoria.  Is possible she died on ship during voyage, but not listed on Victoria's marine index.  Further complication is that John Winstanley Jnr death certificate 1894 shows he had been in Victoria for 42 years, which would be 1852, but these dates are registered by the spouse or descendants and therefore not necessarily correct.  I am researching the Winstanley family for the 150th anniversary of Cheltenham Pioneer Cemetery in Cheltenham, Victoria.  The first born child of John Winstanley Jr and Mary Irvine, Amelia May Winstanley, was the 11th burial at the cemetery in 1865.  Would appreciate any info anyone can give me to assist with this family.

[Chopsuey]

John Winstanley born c1838 Liverpool arrived 6 December 1854 via the Royal Mail Steamer 'Argo' Melbourne Vic as a single British no other family shown.  Originally recorded as Wenstanley, but Public Records Victoria have since corrected.  This ship did not carry a lot of passengers which is why it has been difficult to find him.  Married Mary Irvine Brighton Victoria 1864 and died 1 December 1894 56 years old from Phthisis (TB) at family home 25 Bayview Street, Prahran.  Death cert says buried St Kilda Cemetery, but they have no record. Some of his children buried there.  Any other info gratefully accepted as the Winstanleys have been a challenge.  I doubt his mother is Amelia, unless it is a second name, even though recorded death cert., no record found in UK or Australia.  Hope that helps.