Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820

[Spinning Jenny]

Thanks very much. Poor Martha. The image didn't come through. At least we know that it is possible that Charlotte was born near Sawtry, even though her baptismal record seems to have been lost as he grandfather died in Sawtry in 1806.
Jenny

[Spinning Jenny]

Hi Matt, or who ever may also have this information.
Matt, a few months ago, you had mentioned you had found "Throssell" surname in Sawtry and Bythorn Huntingdonshire. If you would post your findings, it would be much appreciated. They are not on ancestry.com library edition, I couldn't find them on familysearch, and their not on freereg.og. I don't have access to another site.
Many thanks,
Spinning Jenny

[matthewj64]

Interesting fellow. The family trade was shoemaking, but the industry went into deep depression as the wars came to an end. He was born in Broughton, most of the family deriving from Molesworth, Bythorn and Titchmarsh. Mary Fryer/Friar was from Titchmarsh, and eventually was buried there in 1847.

The John Sharman mentioned above was the principle witness, but unfortunately died 22 days before the hearing. He was convicted of theft and the Assize record notes the sentence of death. This was 'commuted' to a seven year transportation, which might seem a little harsh on a fifty year old man. He (with four other 'felons' from the assize) were conducted to the prison hulk Bellerophon, a battleship formerly famous as the ship that conveyed Napoleon from France after Waterloo.

His prison records show he occasionally missed Church muster, and once was found drunk and disorderly. In all a model prisoner. He got his ticket in 1828, but clearly remained.

1838: "Thomas Throssell - ship Caledonia, admitted to New Norfolk Colonial Hospital in February with debilitas" He was then about 68, and has been in VDL about 17 years.

He was (extraordinarily) still there when the Hospital was closed to inmates in 1855. He was 84 by then, and after a government level correspondence about what should happen to the prisoners he (and others) were ordered onto a ship for transport. The prisoners were, it seems kept on deck due to overcrowding despite the season. I can find no trace of him thereafter.

His son Michael died in Perth the very same year, where he was then a Police Inspector (having arrived on the Scindian Prison Guard a few years earlier). Michael's son George, Thomas's own grandson, became the Premier of Western Australia in 1901. His great grandson was Hugo Throssell (VC) and his great great grandson was Ric Throssell (the Spy was wasn't).

Hi Matt, or who ever may also have this information

I think you're after Mike, not Matt? maybe send him a PM

[Spinning Jenny]

Hello Mike Throssell,
I wonder if you would share the info you found on Throssell surname in Sawtry, Bythorn, Huntingdonshire. I have tried using ancestry.com, family search & freebmd unsuccessfully. You must use a different site?
Thank you,
SpinningJenny

[Mike Throssell]

Dear Spinning Jenny
I'm so sorry not to have replied to this at the time. I'm afraid it just got missed.

If you still want this information do please let me know. My brother has, I think published a reasonable account of our researches on Ancestry and I can enquire if he is OK to share that.

Mike

PS: the answer as regards sites, all of which have been used, may lie in the extraordinary range of spellings the name seems to attract: from Throttle to Therassell to Throffell. I've collected 17, but feel sure there are yet more.

[Spinning Jenny]

Hi Mike, I would appreciate that. I haven't found anything about Sawtry, Hunts, etc, but it might give me the baptism of my 3rd great Charlotte Throssell, or other sibs of hers. And yes, many ways of spelling the surname. Things can easily be lost.
Spinning Jenny

[Mike Throssell]

To clarify, this is regarding Charlotte b 1795 at Newton,

"Charlotte Throssell was born in 1795, her father, Thomas, was 25, and her mother, Mary (nee Fryer), was 25. She married (shepherd) John Sharp and they had eight children together. She also had one son from another relationship. She died in 1853 in Oundle, Northamptonshire, at the age of 58, and was buried in Barnwell, Northamptonshire.Present at her wedding was another sister Sofia."

RSVP

[Spinning Jenny]

Hi Mike,
Thanks for this. Newton is close by so I'll have a look in the morning. Just 2 minor changes. I don't think Charlotte married again after John (or before.). I'm sending you some Throssell marriages from Titchmarsh, including Charlotte's marriage. Her sister doesn't appear to have witnessed, but an uncle Thomas Fryer did.
Marriages in Titchmarsh 1813 to 1837
P1 #3, 28 Feb, 1814, John Sharp of parish of Warmington and Charlotte Thropel [Throsell] of this parish, banns with consent of parents. Witnesses the clerk, Wm Curwain and Ths Fryer
P4 #2, 12 Oct, 1815 William Brickwood [Briekwood], Thrapston and Elizabeth Throfsel [Throsell], banns, wits Ths Fryer, Wm Curwain
P9 #27, 18 May, 1819, William Throfsell of this par, bachelor and Elizabeth Hinch, spinster, banns, consent of parents
P18 #52, 08 Nov, 1825, Thomas Johnson, this parish and Mary Thossel, this parish, banns, parents consent, wit: Wm Hill
P20 #58, 23 Nov, 1826, Wm. Hill of Brampton, Hunts and Ursula Throfsel, this par, banns, consent of parents, wit: Wm Brickwood
P33 #98, 05 Jan, 1832, William Knight of Thrapston and Maryanne Threpel, banns
P36, #108, 08 July, 1833, Thomas Britton / Button/ Batton ? Of Fotheringhay and Lucy Thropel /Throfsel of this par, banns, consent of parents, wit: Wm Ford

Many thanks!

[Reaanne]

I am a descendant of Charlotte Throssel and John Sharp through their son, came to Australia.