Robert CLATWORTHY/CLATEWORTHY

[ghostgirl]

I am trying to find any information on the above person. He was born in Esperance, Western Australia, in about 1892/3.  He fought in WW1, then deserted before being discharged, thereby forfeiting his medals, any pay due to him, and his free passage to Australia.

In 1936, an "Application for a certificate of service to replace a lost discharge certificate" was sent to the Base Records Dept in Australia, from Robert Clateworthy, whose address was 445 Richards St (3rd Floor) Vancouver, BC, Canada.

I would like to know whether Robert married in Canada, when he died, and any other information about him as well, if possible, please.

Thanks
GG

[*Sandra*]

Hi GG,

Apart from the New York Passenger List - departing Dundee for New York arriving 23 June 1920 on the Sidlaw Range - can't seem to find any other entries so far even with spelling variation. Still looking though.
Maybe try playing around on this site - for a death registration:-

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch

Family Search have British Columbia marriage up to 1932 and deaths to 1986

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1&region=CANADA

Sandra

 

[RunKitty]

Hi,

I am not seeing him in the Vancouver Directories for 1936 and 1937.  You can search other years to see if there is any sign of him... the directories are free at this site.

http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php

You can also search by address, so perhaps the address given on his form can provide some clues.

RK

[ghostgirl]

Thanks RunKitty and Sandra, I will check out those sites.  I didn't have his passage to Canada either, so that's a good start!!

[sami]

You can also search by address, so perhaps the address given on his form can provide some clues.

Hi GG,

Don't know what you have found so far concerning the address at 445 Richards St. The city directories list a variety of commercial/business/light manufacturing enterprises at that location over the years. But in the 1920's at least, there was also a business listed as 'Richards Rooms' at 445 Richards. That establishment name doesn't show up around the dates you are interested in, but there could have still been a business renting rooms there under another name.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0y1d/

Doesn't really help much but just thought I'd pass it along.

sami

[ghostgirl]

Thank you Sami, that does help, in that it might explain why I am unable to find him - if he was just a boarder/lodger, in "Richard's Rooms" or similar,  he would be quite hard to find! 

[lilybell]

Hello ghostgirl,

After looking through tons of passenger lists I am thinking the passenger list that Sandra posted
could very well be your man. It is the only one that comes close .I could not make out the first name but middle initial is R
Clatworthy is not a very common name. The passenger list does give Esperance as place of birth.
Could be that he stayed in the US maybe coming into Canada sometime later.

Will poke around some more.

Lilybell

[lilybell]

Hi GG

Further checking on the above passenger list indicates that Robert was a L.O.C stowaway.

If you send me your email address I will forward the records onto you.
Not sure what L.O.C. stands for does anyone know.


Lilybell

[lilybell]

Went back to the passenger record for Robert and noticed that the notation beside his name was LPC which stands for Likely Public Charge.
Common cause of detention and grounds for exclusion/deportation.Immigrants were most likely considered a likely public charge if they had little money and no family,friends or prospects or if they were disabled in some way that would prevent them earning their own living.
The majority of LPC exclusions were overcome during the Special Inquiry process,usually when friends,family or some immigrant Aid organization came and vouched for the person or posted a bond for them.
Did some checking on US census records but no luck so do not know if he was deported from the US or came to Canada,or went back home.

Lilybell