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Offline ejandrews

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Re: Help verifying Last Name and Occupation, possibly Ralph Hannth
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 February 14 00:54 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether the original poster ejandrews (welcome  :) ) knows any more about these people (even provisionally) which might give any leads.  The census entry is poorly written both as to Ralph's surname and his birthplace, so on its own it is a tough starting place. 

Even if the enumerator had better handwriting, it wouldn't be conclusive as to Ralph's surname as it would only be the enumerator's interpretation/transcription of what appeared on the household schedule.

Is there anything more to go on, & why are they the subject of interest?

Thanks!
I'm just getting round to each post. I do have a ton of other information. I was working on a post for the general Gloucestershire board to ask for help with more information on Kate King's family and in doing that had realized I didn't know where Robert or Kate King was in 1861 and found the 1861 census of Kate visiting Ralph and his wife and was trying to trace down Ralph and couldn't figure out the name, so ended up posting it here.

I added a post just a bit early with a text attachment with much of what I have pieced together on this King family in Cheltenham.  This is my husbands family and my father-in-law had a professional due some work years ago and has a death certificate for Kate but hasn't been able to send it to me (the papers are all packed away). I'm excited about some of the new leads! I was hoping to find out Ralph's occupation and now I may know Kate's mother's maiden name and her fathers name, which had been eluding me!  :)
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Re: Help verifying Last Name and Occupation, possibly Ralph Hannth
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 13 February 14 07:26 GMT (UK) »

-Kate has at least two siblings, Robert L King b 1843 in Cheltenham,  and
 Henry King b 1844 in Bristol

-Kate's brother Robert L King has immigrated to Little Rock, Arkansas, US sometime before 1870

-Kate's brother Henry had moved to St. Leonard on Sea and started a very successful school, St. Leonards Collegiate School, later changed to King's College (after their last name)

You probably have this info. on Robert but just in case

Robert L King age29 born England occ Carpenter
1870 US census

1880 Little Rock Pulaski Arkansas
 Robert 39 Carpenter married Mattie 27 dau Minnie

Robert L King born 29 Jan 1843 Age at Death:   53
Death Date:   1 Jun 1896 Burial Place:   Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas, USA
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Robt L King age 34
Arrival Date:   23 Aug 1875
Port of Departure:   Liverpool Port of Arrival:   New York, United States
Ship Name: Baltic

I checked Gloucestershire BMD again to see if I could see Robert L Kings 1842 birth entry Cheltenham there’s not one with a middle initial of ‘L’ but there is a Robert King 1842 Cheltenham but NO mother’s maiden name

The Cheltenham birth entry I posted for Henry King born 1844 mmn Green
your Henry King was born 1844 BRISTOL (there are two entries on FreeBMD 1844 Bristol)
his marriage cert to Louisa Susannah Acton would hopefully confirm his father’s name

just in case you don't have these

Henry King of Alexandra House Ellenslea Rd St Leonards on Sea died 20 Mar 1933 probate to Charles Rowbotham Andrew Manager Effects £3553 18s.

Louisa Susannah King died 19 Jun 1938 of 74 Avenue Road Harold Wood Essex widow died 10 Jun probate London 25 July yo Mabel Frances Kings spinster Effects £337 7s 4d




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Re: Help verifying Last Name and Occupation, possibly Ralph Hannth
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 February 14 16:51 GMT (UK) »
For info.

possibly the Henry King born c1844 Cheltenham son of George & Mary may not be your Henry

See what you think found these two censuses and other baptisms mmn GREEN

1841 census Twekesbury Cheltenham
George King 25
Mary Ann King 25
Willm King 3
All born in this county

1851 census Sheffield Yorkshire
George King 35 Police Constable
Mary 36 (possible death of a Mary Ann King Sheffield 1855)
William 13
Sarah 9
HENRY 7
Mary Ann 5
George 1
All born Twekesbury Glost.

1838 bapts William https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NP1R-6HW
1838 mmn Green (see Gloucestershire BMD)

1843 bapts. Sarah https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7M5-XFZ
1841 mmn Green

1844 bapts. Henry details already given mmn Green

1846 bapts Mary Anne https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NB96-75V
1846 mmn Green

1849 George mmn Green (see Gloucestershire BMD)




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Re: Help verifying Last Name and Occupation, possibly Ralph Hannth
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 13 February 14 19:23 GMT (UK) »

-Kate has at least two siblings, Robert L King b 1843 in Cheltenham,  and
 Henry King b 1844 in Bristol

-Kate's brother Robert L King has immigrated to Little Rock, Arkansas, US sometime before 1870

-Kate's brother Henry had moved to St. Leonard on Sea and started a very successful school, St. Leonards Collegiate School, later changed to King's College (after their last name)

You probably have this info. on Robert but just in case


Thanks for all of that! I do have it but it's nice to get confirmation that we are lead to the same places. I do need to look into the birth certificates in Bristol, just hoping to narrow it down before I start spending money on certificates!
Burns - Bemidji, Minnesota
Craig - Texas
Flanders- Ely, Cambridgeshire
King-Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Larson - Otter Tail, Minnesota
Tisdell - New York
Woods - Texas, Kansas
Wrights - Bemidji, Minnesota