Help....can't find James Currie's mother!

[Millmoor]

The James Marrs in the 1871 census makes sense to me! Good find. I had looked for James Marr but didn't think of adding the s.

William

[MonicaL]

Complex set up here for sure. More than normal 

Monica

[ecksdochter]

Hello kshaw,
     Thanks to Millmoor's post with wedding dates in Canada it narrowed the search for Passenger Lists. Little bit of a mystery here too.
     
     Found on Ancestry: UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960.
     Mary Currie age 11, Robina Currie 7, Willie Currie 3 & Walter Currie age 2, booked aboard 'Pomeranian', Allan Line. Departing Glasgow bound for Quebec, Canada, 12th Sept,1903. Except their names had been scored out.

     Then this listing: Mary Currie age 11, Robina Currie 7, Willie Currie 3 & Walter Currie age 2 aboard 'Corinthian', Allan Line. Departing Glasgow bound for Quebec, Canada, 19th Sept,1903.
Their names had been added in different ink after the passengers had been totalled so did they "miss the boat" the week before? There doesn't appear to be an adult with them on either booking. A huge undertaking for an 11yr old being in charge of 2 toddlers & a 7yr old. This was a 32 day journey so would have arrived in Canada about 21st Oct. Hope there was someone to meet them if they were a week late arriving!
     Please note, John born abt 1893 is not with them. Elizabeth married in Canada so will have a look for her next.
               Regards,    Dod.
PS. There is a Mrs Currie with a young family aboard 'Corinthian but I don't think she's your Margaret.

     
     
     
     
     
 

[Millmoor]

Found Margaret Currie's death!

It is registered under the name Margaret Currie other name Mars. She died 23 Nov 1885 at the age of 56. She is the widow of John Mars mason journeyman. She died at 43 Duke Street Glasgow. Parents are named as Ezekial Currie boilermaker journeyman(deceased) and Jane Currie ms Hume (again difficult to be sure could be Hurne), bronchitis and debility!  ... and the clincher (I hope!) the informant is James Currie son 18 Claythorne Street. If the address on any of James's children born in the mid 1880's is 18 Claythorne Street that would be the final proof.

William

[Millmoor]

Good find Dod! You can access the passenger list using the detail given about the ship and date of departure etc on the National Archives of Canada site The entry shows that they were bound for Toronto.

The family immediately above them on the manifest is that of a Mrs James Currie also from Glasgow aged 25 and a housewife and also bound for Toronto with children Margt. 7, Mary 4, Gilian ?4, Nellie 3, Agnes inf. and James inf. Don't know if the families being together on manifest of significance.

William

[Millmoor]

Further to the above the 1901 census suggests that the Mrs James Currie is Julia Currie  married to James N Currie ( a "hint" suggests the N is for Neil) 22 a stone cutter b Glasgow with children Maggie 4, Mary 3, Julia 2 (it will be Julia on the manifest) and Ellen 9mo. I think that James could be the eldest son of James Currie and Margaret Sharkey. Address 282 Great Eastern Road, Camlachie.

William

[Millmoor]

There is a birth in Toronto of a John Currie to James N Currie and Julia Hallie  23 Sep 1904.

William

[ecksdochter]

Hello kshaw & Millmoor,
     I found this on Ancestry, UK Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960.
     Mrs. Margt Currie, Ho/wife age 43. Eliz. age 11? John age 9. James age 24 Occupation: Mason.
Sailing aboard 'Corinthian'. Departure: 30th May,1903 from Glasgow bound for Quebec, Canada. Final destination Toronto.
     This all matches the Currie family except Elizabeth's age. She would be abt 14 not 11 in 1903.
     I wondered if Margaret along with oldest son James, daughter Elizabeth & son John had gone out to Canada to find work, accommodation etc. with the rest of the family following later.
     Like Millmoor I looked for son James on 1901 Census & came up with the same one. James N Currie 22 Stone Cutter. Julia 23. Maggie 4. Mary 3. Julia 2. Ellen 9Mo. at 282 Great Easter Rd, Camlachie Parish.
     So Back to the other Currie family aboard 'Corinthian' 19th Sept,1903.
     Mrs Currie, Howife Adult. Margt age 7. Mary 4. Julian? (Female) 4. Nellie 3. Agnes & James both 11 Months. A close enough match to be the same family do you think?
     SP have a James Neil Currie/Julia Hilley marriage 1896 at Blackfriars, Glasgow. If this James is James Currie & Margaret Sharkey's son it would tie all of these passenger lists & families together.
     I think Margaret's younger children travelled to Canada Sept,1903 aboard 'Corinthian' (Ticket Nos: 30-33) along with brother James' wife, Mrs Currie & their family. (Ticket Nos: 20-26) while Margaret, Elizabeth, John & James (Ticket Nos: 115-118) went ahead of them in May 1903 also aboard 'Corinthian'. Does that just leave daughter Margaret & son Neil at home? (Son Robert Wilson Currie birth & death 1891)
     A lot of information to take in. Hope it's the right information!!
               Regards,     Dod.
PS. James Neil Currie born 1879, Blackfriars, Glasgow.

[Millmoor]

I am sure you are right, Dod. Again using the information you have provided regarding the ships name, date of departure etc. you can access the ships manifest on the Canadian Archives site. This confirms that they are bound for Toronto and are from Lanarkshire.

There are also a number of entries in the Ontario records on family search  showing the marriages of children of the children of James Neil Currie and Julia Hilley. They are easy to find in the 1911 census on Family Search but on other sites I cannot find them to see the image.

William