Help....can't find James Currie's mother!

[Millmoor]

Gosh Monica the ages are all over the place!

That's the entry I found for Ezeekial - freecen have transcribed his first name as Crykial! Again on freecen looking for Margaret Currie there are a number of possibles in 1851. It doesn't help that the place of birth is given as Ireland or Lanarkshire at different times and the surname Currie seems to be easy to mistranscribe.

William

[MonicaL]

Regardless on how transcribed on the transcripts etc...I do think you have the family of Margaret Currie 

Regarding young James b. 1858, you have found him in 1861 earlier with his maternal grandparents in Port Glasgow. Think we are missing still 1871 (?, post long now!) for him and then we link up to him following his marriage to Margaret Sharkey in 1878 and subsequent censuses for 1881/91 up to his death.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Just to add that if Margaret Currie was indeed born in Ireland there is in the 1861 census a Margaret Currie of about the correct age b 1835 listed as a prisoner in North Prison, Glasgow! Possible explanation as to why James Currie was with grandparents?

William

Just to add that there is a likelyhood she was back in prison again for 1871:

Margaret Currie 36 domestic servant, b. Ireland
Address: General Prison For Scotland, Edinburgh Road - Perth

From NAS www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ a possible time line:

1852: Margaret Currie, Age: 16, Address: Sturrock Street, Anderston, Glasgow, Origin: Native of Glasgow -  crime of theft. Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Imprisonment - 9 months.

1854: Margaret Currie, Age: 19, Address: New Wynd, Glasgow, as lodger, Origin: Native of Ireland - crime of theft and previous conviction. Guilty in terms of own confession, Sentence: Penal servitude - 4 years.

1866: Margaret Currie, cohabits with Patrick McHendry, Age: 21, no occupation, Address: 148 Trongate, Glasgow, Origin: Native of Ireland - crime of theft and previous conviction. Verdict: Not proven.

1870: Margaret Currie, Age: 36, lodging house keeper, Address: Drygate, Glasgow, Origin: Native of Ireland - crime of theft and previous conviction. Verdict: Guilty, Sentence: Penal servitude - 7 years.

Is this Margaret Currie, mother of James...

Monica

[Millmoor]

Well Ezekial Marr (transcribed as Marrs) is in the Glasgow poor house in 1871.  There is a snippet in the Glasgow Herald (newspaper archive) from 1870 about Margaret Currie and previous convictions! Would need to see full article, though, to see if it could be her.

James Currie is hard to pin down. There is a James b 1860 Glasgow listed as a boarder in Laurencekirk. A John Currie 54 b Belfast and a hawker is also in the household. It does not say what the relationship is.

William

[MonicaL]

I saw the James with a John Currie, Hawker, in 1871, but think there could well be a corresponding birth for this James in 1859 (family search).

What was the date for the Glasgow Herald? We should be able to view it from here http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC hopefully.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Well Ezekial Marr (transcribed as Marrs) is in the Glasgow poor house in 1871. 

May be hard for kshaw to follow up, subject to location etc, but there may be poor relief application/notes for Ezekial Marr with background for these years?

Monica

[Millmoor]

Article in the herald 14-12-1870 in the section Winter circuit court. It might just be a list.

Agree regarding the poor relief application.

William

[MonicaL]

Well Ezekial Marr (transcribed as Marrs) is in the Glasgow poor house in 1871.

How about James also being there for 1871.

James Marrs, 10, inmate b. Glasgow at City Parish Poorhouse, 322 Parliamentary Road Glasgow.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Article in the herald 14-12-1870 in the section Winter circuit court. It might just be a list.

It is, as you say, just a mention/one liner. Matching what shows at the NAS.

Monica