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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 29 January 14 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this has any bearing on your search:
NSW Birth: 16392/1907 Hilda M CHAMBERLAIN; Father --   ; Mother Jessie M; Newtown
NSW Death: 7381/1907 Hilda M CHAMBERLAIN; Father --   ; Mother Jessie M; Sydney

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Do you have the date of this child's birth. Jessie was also married in 1907.

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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 01 February 14 21:37 GMT (UK) »
NSW ER 1903 ILLAWARRA polling at Berry
George Henry DAVIS, of Berry, fettler

NSW ER 1903 DALLEY polling at Toxteth
George Henry DAVIS, 10 Boyce St, Journalist.  There were ten by that surname enrolled at that polling place in 1903, not all at that same address though

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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #47 on: Friday 21 February 14 07:23 GMT (UK) »
I was going through this thread.
Can I ask how come he was 28 both times he got married.

Researching Whitby from England & Australia, Taylor from Scotland & Australia, Norman/Normand from France & Australia. Other last names in my tree Raeburn, Appleby, Ingram, Lynch, Hayes, Baker, Ketley, Newman, Dobson, Holdsworth, Summerill, Summerell.

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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 23 February 14 23:53 GMT (UK) »
I was going through this thread.
Can I ask how come he was 28 both times he got married.

First Marriage: George and MinnieDate: 26.Feb. 1907
Where: the Methodist Parsonage Forest Lodge
Religion: Methodist
Groom: George Davis
Bachelor
Where Born: Nowra
Occupation: Farmer
Age: 28
Current Residents: Balmain
Father: George Davis (deceased)
Mother: Mary Carmody
Fathers occupation: Publican
Bride: Minnie Croft
Spinster
Where Born: Singleton NSW
occupation: Private Life
age: 24
current residents: Forest Lodge
Father: Charles croft (deceased)
Mother: Elizabeth Russell
fatehrs occupation: iron Mouger
Wit: Bertram Collier and Elizth Collier
Minister: J.Wl Collier

Second Marriage - George and Jessie
Date: 30.10.1907
Where: St Luke's church Berry
Religion: Church of England
Groom: George Henry Davis
Bacholer
Where born: Shoalhaven, nsw
Occupation: labourer
age: 28
usual Residents: Harley Hill, Berry
Father: George Henry Davis (Deceased)
mother: Mary Carmody
Fathers occupation: Hotel Keeper
Bride: Jessie May Chamberlain
Spinster
Where born: Shoalhaven
Occupation: Domestic Duties
Age: 22
Usual REsidents: Harley Hill, Berry
Father: Richard Chamberlain
Mother: Charlotte Burgess
Fathers Occupation: Tanner
Witnesses: Richard John Mathers and Henry Reuben Chamberlain
Minister G.Jeannings.

Hi Leanne,

There is less than twelve months between the dates of the two ceremonies.  (26 Feb. 1907 and 30.10. 1907.) 

I must admit that I continue to be a little surprised by the spelling 'Current Residents' and "Usual Residents" on the official transcriptions  (Residence ? ), and a tad surprised by the different ways the dates are transcribed. 

Of course, the real deal certificates would have the signatures of the parties, and the decipher board here at RChat is full of people who could help determine if the same chap signed as the groom on each register.   The Oct 1907 certificate would also give that bride's signature for comparing  her signature if she was the informant for the birth registrations for her children and also for her 1919 marriage.

NSW BDM online index has a birth registration for 1878 for George, with parents as George and Mary DAVIS, registered in the Shoalhaven district.  #21996.   I have not noticed an index entry for  a George Henry DAVIS' birth being registered in that district in 1878.

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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #49 on: Monday 24 February 14 02:03 GMT (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114352217   Shoalhaven News  9 Nov 1907
"The marriage of Mr Geo. Davis (Sydney) with Jessie Chamberlain, youngest daughter of Mr R. Chamberlain (Berry) was celebrated at the Church of England, Berry. Mr J. Mathers was best man and -Miss C. Mathers bridesmaid."
May I ask you to carefully check the two 1907 transcriptions please.   Particularly for the usual address for the GROOM.   From the above newspaper cutting chap who married Jessie does NOT seem to be a local son of a chap from Berry.


I had been following up on the C of E Rev’d for St Lukes, Berry, but put the info aside waiting for some answers to questions on this thread.    I will post the info now as I am tidying up my notes, and so I hope it will help our OP along while she is waiting to update us all on her enquiries with family members

August 1907 St Lukes C of E BERRY
Death of the Rev G H MUZY. 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114353381  Shoalhaven News 31 Aug 1907
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=6151673

Nov 1907
Rev John BOARDMAN appointed Rector of St Lukes C of E, Berry…    He held his initial services in Berry on Sunday 3 Nov 1907.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/127577600 Shoalhaven Telegraph 6 Nov 1907

In the same paper, under the same heading “Berry Bulletins.”, “ Miss Jessie Chamberlain was married last Wednesday to a Mr George Davis.  The ceremony took place in the local Church of England” so the Rev G Jeannings was likely just the locum who conducted the 30 Oct marriage ceremony.  To my thinking that can be a pointer when there is a possible suspect marriage under investigation, so if this were my family I would save up the pennies and get the real deal certs to check what signatures match/or otherwise.           I note that the Shoalhaven Telegraph is not giving any pointers as to who that Mr George Davis was, but again, I suggest he was not well known locally, or at least not well known to the clergy at St Lukes, or to the newspaper reporter or the person who sent the info to the reporter.


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=672376.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=675752.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=675075.0

Cheers,  JM

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Re: Married as a Spinster twice - How? my theory
« Reply #50 on: Monday 24 February 14 10:13 GMT (UK) »

I have PM quite a few people at their request and have given them the ending to my theory (at least where I am up to now) and now consider this closed.
Meggles
Harris - Denbury Devon
Wotton - Ideford Devon
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Burgess - Sussex
Savage - South Australia
Wilks - South Australia
Horrigan - South Australia
Hodgson - Lancashire
Martin - St Stithians, Cornwall
Mathers - Liverpool
Riley/Royle - Lancashire