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Place of Burial
« on: Tuesday 28 January 14 00:48 GMT (UK) »
In 1903 an ancestor of mine was sent to Holloway Prison for two months without hard labour. Whilst serving her time there she died. At the time of her imprisonment she was living in Chelmsford, Essex. Would her body have been returned to Chelmsford or was  there a dedicated cemetery for the prison?

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Re: Place of Burial
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 02:07 GMT (UK) »
I strongly suggest firstly you get the certificate registration reference and apply for that certificate.

It will indicate who the informant was and other info.   Then I would look for a newspaper article in the period surrounding the death date and thereafter.    I would then do a google maps search around the prison identifying all the cemeteries....   similiarly I would do the same for cemeteries and crematoria around the place of origin.    Then you will have the hard yards to see where and what happened to the relative...
A lot of folk died in 1903 and without a name in your post we cannot do a hunt for you....... but that info you may already have................
good luck
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Re: Place of Burial
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 08:33 GMT (UK) »

A lot of folk died in 1903 and without a name in your post we cannot do a hunt for you.......

As I read the post, I do not think Oldfeller is asking or expecting anyone to do a hunt for him. Just for thoughts and suggestions on where he might do his hunting.
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Re: Place of Burial
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 09:02 GMT (UK) »
I think it would depend on whether or not her relatives could afford to have her body returned to her home, or if she had a paupers burial. If she had a paupers burial then she would be buried in the local cemetery. It is unlikely that the prison would have a dedicated cemetery, except that the bodies of all executed prisoners were buried in unmarked graves within the walls of the prison.

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 09:11 GMT (UK) »
dear jbml         well I thought I was offering an opinion   like the post said.......    but I suppose now I have folk wanting to comment on dictum as well that I use.......

I am certain oldfella knows exactly wot I mean and as suggested comments were given.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hampstead and Highgate Cemeteries were the nearest to Holloway  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xt1/

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Re: Place of Burial
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 February 14 05:51 GMT (UK) »
G'Day,
Thankyou to those who answered my query, and my apologies for a rather belated reply. It was a sort of general question and I wasn't sure how much detail to include. I do have the Death Certificate and the informant was the Coroner for the city of London. She was a widow and her children were very young so it is very unlikely that her body was transported home to Chelmsford. I have also searched the Burials for Springfield and Chelmsford with no luck.I wrote to Highgate and a very prompt reply told me they had no record of such a burial. I'll try some more of the nearby cemeteries and look for some records for Holloway Prison itself.
Once again many thanks for the helpful replies.
Regards, oldfeller
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