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Really Stumped -Can Anyone Help Please
« on: Monday 27 January 14 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks,  I wonder if anyone can help me locate a death for Alfred Ernest Tyson.  He was born at Chester-le-Street, Co. Durham in 1899 and the family seem to have had their roots there. I have him on the 1901 and 1911 Census and also his marriage in 1925 at Chester-le-Street to Annie Mole born 1902 at Perkinsville, Chester-le-Street.  Alfred Ernest Tyson was informant on his mother's death certificate in 1933, then after that I can find no trace.  I have found the death for Annie in 1983 in Chester-le-Street but no sign of Alfred Ernest.  I have checked Emmigration Records, Death Records, Wills etc but to no avail. I did find two deaths for an Alfred Ernest Tyson - one in Barrow In Furness, Cumbria, and one in Sunderland, both were purchased but ??? unfortunately both were wrong.  I am not really sure where to go from here and would welcome any help or suggestions.

Many thanks,

Doric


Schellenberg of Yorkshire/Durham
Westgarth of Durham/Pittington
Johnson of Sunderland/Houghton-le-Spring/Worksop/Yorks/Scotland
Charlton of Hexham and Houghton-le-Spring areas
Brown of Alnwick and Newbottle, Houghton-le-Spring/Chester-le-Street
Hailes of Chester-le-Street
Hope of Chester-le-Street
Ainsley of Willington/Chester-le-Street
Reed of Houghton-le-Spring
Baister of Houghton-le-Spring
Ashman of Houghton-le-Spring area
Wilson of Sunnybrow, Auckland
Wittman of Bradford/Leeds

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Re: Really Stumped -Can Anyone Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 January 14 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Have you eliminated the deaths simply registered as Alfred Tyson?
I don't think there was any particular requirement to register deaths with the person's full name  :-\
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 January 14 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Do you have his actual date of birth, have you check the Electoral Register, who was the informant on Annie's death certificate

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 January 14 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Can you give us the reasons, why you have discounted the death certificates, you have already purchased

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 January 14 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen and Margp,  I have tried every combination I can think of, but not the Electoral Register as I have no access and unable to visit Durham Records Office.  I don't know the informant on Annie's death certificate as I have not received it yet.  The date of birth for Alfred Ernest Tyson was 15th January, 1899 and he was baptised on 26th February, 1899.  Annie and Alfred Ernest had three children the last one being born in 1936, so I am also awaiting that certificate to see if it gives Alfred Ernest's status as (deceased)

The reasons that the other two certificates were discounted Margp was that the on the one from Barrow in Furness, the place of birth differed and the informant of the death was named as sister which also didn't fit.  The Sunderland one also was a misfit.

Many thanks for your interest

Doric
Schellenberg of Yorkshire/Durham
Westgarth of Durham/Pittington
Johnson of Sunderland/Houghton-le-Spring/Worksop/Yorks/Scotland
Charlton of Hexham and Houghton-le-Spring areas
Brown of Alnwick and Newbottle, Houghton-le-Spring/Chester-le-Street
Hailes of Chester-le-Street
Hope of Chester-le-Street
Ainsley of Willington/Chester-le-Street
Reed of Houghton-le-Spring
Baister of Houghton-le-Spring
Ashman of Houghton-le-Spring area
Wilson of Sunnybrow, Auckland
Wittman of Bradford/Leeds

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 January 14 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have found this death record

Ernest A Tyson
Oct Qtr 1956 Sunderland Durham
Age at death 58
Vol 1a
Page 167

I have found Alfred's,  date of birth, from his Baptist record, for the 15 Jan 1899, is this correct

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 January 14 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Wow Margp, Where did you find that one?  It could well be him.  I have trawled through hundreds and hundreds of death records with every combination I could think of, so somewhere along the line I have missed that one - perhaps I was getting to the point where I was almost  'word blind'  That is the correct date of birth so I will order that certificate tomorrow and see where it takes me.

Many many thanks,

Doric
Schellenberg of Yorkshire/Durham
Westgarth of Durham/Pittington
Johnson of Sunderland/Houghton-le-Spring/Worksop/Yorks/Scotland
Charlton of Hexham and Houghton-le-Spring areas
Brown of Alnwick and Newbottle, Houghton-le-Spring/Chester-le-Street
Hailes of Chester-le-Street
Hope of Chester-le-Street
Ainsley of Willington/Chester-le-Street
Reed of Houghton-le-Spring
Baister of Houghton-le-Spring
Ashman of Houghton-le-Spring area
Wilson of Sunnybrow, Auckland
Wittman of Bradford/Leeds

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 January 14 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Wow Margp, Where did you find that one?  It could well be him.  I have trawled through hundreds and hundreds of death records with every combination I could think of, so somewhere along the line I have missed that one - perhaps I was getting to the point where I was almost  'word blind'  That is the correct date of birth so I will order that certificate tomorrow and see where it takes me.

Many many thanks,

Doric
It was on Findmypast, fingers crossed
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 January 14 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Wow Margp, Where did you find that one?  It could well be him.  I have trawled through hundreds and hundreds of death records with every combination I could think of, so somewhere along the line I have missed that one - perhaps I was getting to the point where I was almost  'word blind'  That is the correct date of birth so I will order that certificate tomorrow and see where it takes me.

Many many thanks,

Doric
The date of birth was not from the, death record, it was from his Baptist record
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich