JAMES HENRY MURDOCH Mystery?

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I found these, possibly regarding your Jane,


New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981

1946
Jane MURDOCH    76 Richmond St.  Petone,  Widow

1949
Jane MURDOCH    76 Richmond St.  Petone,  Widow


There is a tree online that gives her death as "12 Sept 1950,  Richmond Street, Petone, N.Z."

That could fit with this death, but unfortunately the website doesn't say where the death occurred,

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

Jane MURDOCH    1950    84years


Regards,
Daisy

[barrierexpress]

Hi Daisy,
Thankyou. This is definitely 'my' Jane, and confirms what the family said "that she died in Petone" It now also gives me the actual date.

[barrierexpress]

Thanks to Daisy I now know that the birth date I gave for Jane Nicol should have been 1866 and not 1858.
So now I don`t know where she was born-probably Scotland but haven`t located her yet, There is no record of her birth in NZ with NZBMD.I am waiting the marriage certificate for her and James from NZBMD to first of all confirm that it was her and James that married 1901, and if so hopefully more information on parents and origins.Will post when I have more.

[ballydw]

Jane Nicol b. 24/10/1865 Kilsyth Stirlingshire Scotland
D. 12th Sept 1950 Richmond St Petone NZ
Parents John Nicol & Margaret Sloan

[barrierexpress]

Thankyou so much Ballydw.
Now I can give my full attention to James Henry.In case anyone following this thread has connections to Jane Mary ,I have a photo of her I`d be pleased to share.

[ballydw]

There are 2 baptism records in scotland dates not given.
1  James Cook Murdoch
2  Jane Murdoch

Parents for both given as Jane Nicol & James Murdoch

[barrierexpress]

Hi  Ballydw
Thanks .Without dates a bit of a problem. IF ,they are the same, it means James was probably born in Scotland (his descendants think he was Irish),and probably they were married there, and not in NZ. That they had two children before moving to NZ.?Possibly different people? Hope the marriage cert  will shed some light.

Also ballydw, I found the official birth notice for Jane from the birth info you provided, and the surname is spelt with two L`s .NICOLL. When I put that into NZBMD nothing comes up. Nicol is spelt with one L for marriage, and children`s births.

On another family website I found a couple of  Family Tree`s giving Jane`s birth as circa 1866 in Kilsyth Stirling, but both give different parents ,being-David Nicol & Christina(no maiden name).

So again hopefully the marriage cert (if it turns out to be for the correct family)may provide the answer.

[ballydw]

barrierexpress yes I think you will get the correct info from the marriage cert it is speculative otherwise. Lots of Nicol name in scotland.

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I think the children found by ballydw are by a different couple, Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 has,


Jane MURDOCH
4 Oct 1861
Elgin, Moray, Scotland
Father:  James MURDOCK
Mother:  Jane NICOL


James Cook MURDOCH
23 Jun 1868
Elgin, Moray, Scotland
Father:  James MURDOCK
Mother:  Jane NICOL


Well it helps to rule them out