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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #63 on: Friday 31 January 14 20:11 GMT (UK) »
BTW - I have located someone on Genealogy.com who is researching the same family. 

He/she has, what I assume are certificate numbers, for the births and deaths so I have contacted them to see if they have any more information that might solve the mystery of the "missing burial records".
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #64 on: Friday 31 January 14 20:35 GMT (UK) »
If you visit the history centre at Chippenham it is best to let them know  when you are visiting them. You also have to book a fiche or film reader.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #65 on: Friday 31 January 14 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Yep - I have contacted them and they have given me all the info to do that TX. 


Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #66 on: Sunday 02 February 14 03:38 GMT (UK) »
I hope that all folk putting up death cert references on this post are in fact checking the age of deaths against the wiltshire bmd...........

uuummmmm  youngtug > I am certain the prs have been used for all sorts of interesting purposes....   the palimpapest(sic spelling*), the lacemakers......    and most probably fire starting.

trance>
a friendly perspective of the excel BC version of entries from Parrys book......  I did see that comment tother day made by a chatterer....   I did check against the fso on that , as u thought i might having family there, the answer is yes fso scopes are outside Parrys book and some of it comes up to 1880s (from memory)
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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #67 on: Sunday 02 February 14 10:24 GMT (UK) »
I hope that all folk putting up death cert references on this post are in fact checking the age of deaths against the wiltshire bmd...........

Thanks for that!  Most of my Wilts research is from 'hands on' days, using purchased copies of microfiche of parish registers for the Cannings and All Cannings Bishops Transcripts, so I was unaware Wiltshire had engaged with that project.  For those unfamiliar with the BMD databases this is the link:   http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 02 February 14 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Just a word of warning - it's a work in progress!

For my parish of interest, births only up to 1892 ::)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 02 February 14 10:40 GMT (UK) »
For the period of this thread it's perfect!  In a previous post I reported my 'gut' feeling on other records I encountered:

I did notice two other Chittoe baptisms 05 Dec 1852 [Eliza Martha & Mary] with parentage 'Edwin' & Elizabeth, which could be an error, as I found only one Edwin in 1851 born Sussex in prison up-country and none in 1861!  At least one, if not both, of those babes appear to have been possible infant mortalities in 1853 and 1854 respectively.

They are confirmed in the Births on WiltsBMD with mother's maiden name!
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #70 on: Monday 03 February 14 11:11 GMT (UK) »
To quote [or misquote] 'As sure as eggs is eggs' someone must know the whereabouts of the original Chittoe Burial Register:  the end date is 1998!
Suggest you look at Wikipedia and then try Bromham after you have read the entry. My guess is that they will be filed with Bromham parish!
Ayres Brignell Cornwell Harvey Shipp  Stimpson Stubbings (all Cambs) Baumber Baxter Burton Ethards Proctor Stanton (all Lincs) Luffman (all counties)

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #71 on: Monday 03 February 14 14:23 GMT (UK) »
As far as I have determined Edmond's mother was Jane Hatter .....

I had another crack at parentage and found this in FamilySearch for an Edmund born Wiltshire 1822-23:
28 Jul 1822 Edmund HATTIE [sic] son of William & Catharine  at Bromham
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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