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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #54 on: Friday 31 January 14 18:15 GMT (UK) »
It's possible it could be lodged elsewhere in the diocese, as although a burial ground may be 'closed' to new burials, there may be deeds pertaining to the ownership of plots which could in theory be re-opened for family members.

Whatever the outcome, the Wiltshire repositories and websites need to be 'singing from the same songsheet .... '
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #55 on: Friday 31 January 14 18:41 GMT (UK) »
So we should - however we can but work with what we know - I shall ask my Melksham OPC to visit the area and see what graves are there if any.  She may be able to photograph them for our website.  Just because a ground is consecrated I suppose there is an outside chance that no burials took place but I doubt it.  It may be that the vicar of Bromham has the latest registers for Chittoe in his keeping.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #56 on: Friday 31 January 14 18:46 GMT (UK) »
It is a problem the disappearance of part or more of parish records. Some church's have hung onto them and others seem to have lost them. There is a note in one of the Phillimores books saying that part of the PRs  were used for fire lighting by the official in charge of them. [not this parish]

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #57 on: Friday 31 January 14 18:57 GMT (UK) »
And,, mentioning Phillimores;    https://archive.org/details/registersofbisho00bish


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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #58 on: Friday 31 January 14 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Yes we hold a copy of this - according to someone on another thread am sure they said this is not complete as suggested.

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #59 on: Friday 31 January 14 19:26 GMT (UK) »
I shall ask my Melksham OPC to visit the area and see what graves are there if any.  She may be able to photograph them for our website.  Just because a ground is consecrated I suppose there is an outside chance that no burials took place but I doubt it.  It may be that the vicar of Bromham has the latest registers for Chittoe in his keeping.

If anyone local is able to check out the document reference at Chippenham, there should be a note of when and by whom the Chittoe Burials transcript was deposited.  After all, it features, as below, in the WSRO History of the Parish Section for Chittoe St Mary on the old a2a website!

Transcript of Chittoe burial register  PR/Chittoe St Mary with Sandy Lane St Mary and St Nicholas/2379/51 (A)  1846-1998
These documents are held at Wiltshire and Swindon Archives
Contents:
With details added of grave location and monumental description, with a small map showing the location of known graves.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #60 on: Friday 31 January 14 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank the stars you all know what you are talking about!!!  I don't even understand most of the acronyms! 

I did ask the researcher from the WSHC where the burial records were kept.  I will let you know if I hear anything back. 

Not sure how helpful it is but, in the meantime, I did find the following on this website - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Chittoe/#Cemeteries


Indexes and registers of the parish church of Chittoe, St Mary:
(for earlier entries see Bishops Cannings, Bromham, Calne and Chippenham)

    WSRO registers: Chr 1846-1912, Mar 1846-1978
    IGI Chr 1846-1875 Batch C054331, Mar 1846-1880 and some to 1884 Batch M054331
    Wiltshire Index Service Burials 1846-1858
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #61 on: Friday 31 January 14 20:02 GMT (UK) »
To quote [or misquote] 'As sure as eggs is eggs' someone must know the whereabouts of the original Chittoe Burial Register:  the end date is 1998!
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Why did the Hatter's die so young?
« Reply #62 on: Friday 31 January 14 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Here's hoping!  As I said in an earlier msge... In a couple of weeks I will be visiting England's green and pleasant land myself. 

I hope to spend some time at the historical centre and (as a wannabe photographer I always have a camera in hand) I intend to take pics of churches, gravestones etc. 

I am more than happy to share/post anything people might find useful.

Carol
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ