Almondbury - Joseph Crowther

[bolttail]

Many thanks 'dobfam' and 'BumbleB' for the additional snippets. There does appear to have been a William and William junior as well as a Joseph and Joseph junior.

Although the Crowthers lived at Linthwaite in the Parish of Almondbury, it appears that they baptized their children at St James, Slaithwaite, which I understand (from Genuki) was in the parish of Huddersfield. Presumably this was for reasons of convenience as All Hallows, Almondbury, is some distance from Linthwaite. What puzzles me is that I have noticed that many of the Crowther Slaithwaite baptism entries also appear in the All Hallows records.

From a combination of my research and the information provided, I'm slowly becoming inclined to the view that Joseph Crowther the father of Jonathan was the same Joseph as previously lived at at Hole House, Linthwaite, and who was the father of Joseph (1721). That is, Joseph and family moved to Lockwood some time prior to 1737. I have no evidence that this happened, so, if anyone has evidence which confirms this, suggests otherwise, or casts doubt on this theory, I'd be pleased to have it.

[BumbleB]

There is a note in the Register for St James :

"The names of other children baptised from 10 May 1685 until 7 October 1688 may be found in ye Register at Huddersfield and note also that those registered here are there registered also"

I don't know much about St James, but it may possibly be that it is a chapel of ease for a church in Huddersfield.  I'm sure that my friend Dobfarm will know the answer 

There are certainly a lot of children with father's name Joseph Crowther in the registers 

[dobfarm]

You could try looking at Wills/probate pre 1858 (After checking PR burials for a  date too cross ref with the Wills index that can be upto a few years later after the  burial date at probate release date) that go back to year dot at Borthwick York university in Hessington near York (one or two libraries may have the Will index aswell) and also try Deeds post 1704 at Wakefield deeds registers at WYAS also earlier stuff if any info survives will be in this link catologue at WYAS

http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/advanced.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog

or try the national archive search (A2A) as info for around Huddersfield can be held at other archives like Sheffield, Lichfield , Leigh, Manchester, North Allerton, Barnsley, Rotherham ,Matlock, Beverley, Doncaster, York main Archives (Plus Borthwick) or others

[BumbleB]

I've just looked up my "bible" for Yorkshire in general - GENUKI - and Slaithwaite is within the parish of Huddersfield.

[bolttail]

Thanks BumbleB and Dobfam. Regarding wills. Been there, seen it, done it. The only one which might be relevant is the will of Joseph Crowther of Hill Top, Golcar, who died in 1780 aged 63. I might invest in a copy, but I think he was the Joseph baptized in 1718, son of William, and that he spent his life in the Linthwaite/Golcar area. But I could be wrong.

[BumbleB]

Oh, wills are very interesting, especially the older ones    And if you get an inventory, then that's really special - even down to, perhaps, the cheeses in the pantry and the number of sheets!!!  How our ancestors lived 

And if you don't get his will, then you won't get the answer, will you?  Go for it 

[singingsusie]

Almondbury All Hallows was the Mother Church for the area.  It is reasonably common for records to be shown twice.  Slaithwaite St James is a mere skip down the road from Linthwaite.  I wonder if Hole House was what now is known as Hoyle House?   Good luck with the search.

[bolttail]

Many thanks 'singingsusie' for your input. Yes, I believe that Hole House and Hoyle House are one and the same. The Slaithwaite baptism records contain many examples of both.

For the benefit of any Crowthers of Almondbury researchers who may read this topic, I believe that the answer to my original question regarding the identity of Joseph Crowther of Lockwood, the father of Jonathan baptized at All Hallows on the 28th December 1737, is that he was the Joseph who had previously lived at Hole House, Linthwaite, and who was the father of a number of children baptized at Slaithwaite between 1718 and 1734 (wife's name unknown).

This conclusion is based on the fact that I have been unable to find any evidence of a viable alternative. If there are any Crowther researchers out there who have any evidence that suggests otherwise, please contact me.