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London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Can anyone help me with this place please ?

At the time of the 1891 census No.27 and 29 Ives Street, Chelsea were lumped together as the London Provincial Dairy.

The street is still there although probably much altered since then.

I'm wondering if anyone has come across any mention of the place or seen any photo's.

Many thanks.
ANDREWS, BROOK(S), CHERRYMAN, CORNFORD, COLEMAN, CUMPER, FISHER,
HARRINGTON, HAYLER, HOUGH, HUTTON, JUPP, KENSETT, ILLMAN, KITE, STOPES,
SPYER, LAKER, MASON, NICHOLSON, ROBERTS, FOX, RODWELL, WRIGHT, LOCKARD,
LONE, SAY, SAYERS, SCOTT, STREETER, THOMAS, KAYES, TREADWELL, USHERWOOD,
CHANDLER, VAUGHAN, WELLER, WELLS, WOOD, SAUNDERS, WREN, HAYWARD, CLEAR

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:12 GMT (UK) »
If you Google "London and Provincial" dairy (include the quotation marks), you get lots of hits!

I'm not sure many of them are relevant, though?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I tried that, as you say - nothing much there !

Thanks for looking.
ANDREWS, BROOK(S), CHERRYMAN, CORNFORD, COLEMAN, CUMPER, FISHER,
HARRINGTON, HAYLER, HOUGH, HUTTON, JUPP, KENSETT, ILLMAN, KITE, STOPES,
SPYER, LAKER, MASON, NICHOLSON, ROBERTS, FOX, RODWELL, WRIGHT, LOCKARD,
LONE, SAY, SAYERS, SCOTT, STREETER, THOMAS, KAYES, TREADWELL, USHERWOOD,
CHANDLER, VAUGHAN, WELLER, WELLS, WOOD, SAUNDERS, WREN, HAYWARD, CLEAR

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:37 GMT (UK) »
From "The Lancet" 17th July 1897:

The Victorian Era Exhibition at Earl's Court
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The careful treatment of milk and all its products by the London and Provincial Dairy Company was much more satisfactory. Here fresh milk, strawberries and cream, ices, &c., may be enjoyed by the visitor while contemplating cows and calves contentedly chewing the cud in model stables.


And that's about as exciting as it gets! ;D
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Ooh, I didn't find that entry.

Just checked again - found it !

Thank-you for that, it's a start  ;D
ANDREWS, BROOK(S), CHERRYMAN, CORNFORD, COLEMAN, CUMPER, FISHER,
HARRINGTON, HAYLER, HOUGH, HUTTON, JUPP, KENSETT, ILLMAN, KITE, STOPES,
SPYER, LAKER, MASON, NICHOLSON, ROBERTS, FOX, RODWELL, WRIGHT, LOCKARD,
LONE, SAY, SAYERS, SCOTT, STREETER, THOMAS, KAYES, TREADWELL, USHERWOOD,
CHANDLER, VAUGHAN, WELLER, WELLS, WOOD, SAUNDERS, WREN, HAYWARD, CLEAR

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 January 14 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Try this!  http://dds.crl.edu/loadStream.asp?iid=56924

It's a report on The International Health Exhibition, 1884.
There are no page numbers, but search for "Provincial", and you'll find a little report starting at the bottom of a page!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 January 14 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes, found it thanks.

My ancestor gave the address of 27 Ives St., Chelsea on his marriage certificate so I wonder if the Dairy had accommodation there ?

He wasn't there on the 1881 or 1891 census, just in 1892 when he married.
ANDREWS, BROOK(S), CHERRYMAN, CORNFORD, COLEMAN, CUMPER, FISHER,
HARRINGTON, HAYLER, HOUGH, HUTTON, JUPP, KENSETT, ILLMAN, KITE, STOPES,
SPYER, LAKER, MASON, NICHOLSON, ROBERTS, FOX, RODWELL, WRIGHT, LOCKARD,
LONE, SAY, SAYERS, SCOTT, STREETER, THOMAS, KAYES, TREADWELL, USHERWOOD,
CHANDLER, VAUGHAN, WELLER, WELLS, WOOD, SAUNDERS, WREN, HAYWARD, CLEAR

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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 January 14 13:48 GMT (UK) »
I did have a look yesterday at some  maps of the area but no dairies were marked on the map on Ives Street:
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Re: London Provincial Dairy, Ives Street, Chelsea ??
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 January 14 14:27 GMT (UK) »
My OH had some people that were in Ives Sreet. I can't remember what number or which census (not at my tree software at the mo)!.
I agree the street is much changed now, but looking at the current layout of numbering and translating that to a map from that approx timeframe (on Old-Maps), it would indicate that the yard area with an entrance on the outside of the corner (as you know, Ives St is L-shaped) would be prime suspect, with the double width building either side being the actual 27/29 building itself. This would make sense for a dairy with a yard for delivery carts, etc.
Will post later when I know which number/year OH's rellies were there and any other info I find.

Edit - Just looked at some later maps and by 1955 the site from the area I highlighted along the entire north side of the east-west arm of Ives Street (that bit towards Mossop St) is shown as Milk Depot, so am thinking that first guess may well be right.