NSW Hulks

[anniebelle]

Does anyone know if there were prison hulks in Port Jackson, NSW in convict times where those with a colonial sentence were sent?  If so, are there any records available that record who may have been sent to a hulk and what happened to them after?

Any direction as to where to go would be appreciated.

[ennael]

Hi,
  Would you like to provide the name of the person  you are looking for please?
 

Leanne

[rosball]

Yes here is a little about the Phoenix which was used as a prison hulk

http://www.patersonriver.com.au/places/phoenix.htm

regards,
   Ros

[anniebelle]

Firstly, thank you to both of you for your quick responses.

I am looking for inform on what happened to William Buttress (Convict per 'Lord Sidmouth' 1820) following his transfer to 'Hulk'. The Sydney Gaol Entrance Book records :
23 Apr 1827 William Buttress, Qtr Sessions, Windsor, pig stealing, 7 years, penal settlement; 19 Jun 1827 Transferred Hulk.

There is a report on Trove in Syd Gazette of 16 Apr, 1827 of this court case.

William Buttress' wife, Rebecca Hall, remarried to Edward Hames/Arms in Jul, 1831 which makes me suspect William must have died.  I am hoping to find some details as to whether this is so.

[ennael]

Hi,
  have you seen these?:
From Colonial Secretarys' Records:

BUTTRESS, William. Per "Lord Sidmouth, 1819
 

1822 Feb 2
 
In Sydney Gaol charged with assaulting his overseer. To be discharged and delivered to Carter's Barracks (Reel 6008; 4/3504A pp.384-5)
 

1823 Oct 25
 
On list of prisoners assigned (Fiche 3290; 4/4570D p.12)
 

1823 Nov 8
 
On lists of convict labourers forwarded from the Establishment, Emu Plains, to the Penrith Bench for assignment; listed as Gardener alias Buttress (Reel 6028; 2/8283 pp.169, 175)
 

1825 Apr 19
 
On return of Government servants transferred in the District of Evan; from William Roberts to Alexander Fraser on 25 Jan (Reel 6063; 4/1785 p.183a)
 
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

Leanne

[judb]

TROVE has this general account of the prison hulk in Port Jackson in December 1826, about 4 months before your man was on it.  No mention of whether the prisoners stayed on the hulk or were waiting for transportation to somewhere else.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31758044

Seems a bit odd -

The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, Monday 16 April 1827, has an account of a trial at Windsor Quarter Sessions where 4 people are tried for pig stealing including a Wm BUTTRESS who is found not guilty.  This report of the proceedings of the Windsor Quarter Sessions is curiously dated Tuesday October 10, 1827, however this would seem to be a typo as the Tuesday prior to the date of the newspaper report would be Tuesday 10 April   The sentences for the two who were found guilty are listed.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2188032

         Judith

[Neil Todd]

Listed as both GARDENER and GARDINER
Death 1827 Ref # V18277398 2C/1827 also Ref# V182737 11/1827

William aged 57 years.

Neil

[anniebelle]

Thank you for your responses.  Yes, I have seen the Col Sec Corres and also the Trove article. I think the Newspaper report must have incorrectly stated that Buttress was found Not  Guilty given he was admitted to the Syd Gaol just following the trial. I also noticed reference to the 'alias Gardener'.
William Buttress was born abt 1797 according to his Convict records, so about 30 years in 1827.

The Paterson River History article on the 'Phoenix' has provided some good guidance on NSW State Records available at Western Sydney on records relating to the 'Phoenix'.  Looks as though I might find out more on a visit there when I next get to visit Syd.

Thanks again for generous help and information.

[Aussie1947]

Hi

In June 1825 the Hulk Phoenix was almost ready to receive prisoners

In May 1826 the Phoenix Hulk was to be achored off Goat Island in Sydney Harbour and the prisoners worked on the shore.

Gerry