Mcintee Swansea

[kevinlong10]

My paternal grandmother was Bridget Mackintee, she was married to / living with my grandfather in Greenhill Swansea in one of the pre 1900s census reports (I will look it up).
My grandfathers name was Frederick Ricketts Long.
If Bridget is part of the same family and this would be my first connection for her.

[Dee33]

I would say she was definitely related 

[kevinlong10]

Hi Dee thanks for the quick reply,
Just looked up the details again, it was the 1911 census and their address was 1 Owens  Court Greenhill Swansea , at the time of the census she was 24  had 3 children already Bridget is listed as coming from Swansea although all of the children Gloucester has their birthplace.

They had been married for 6 years in 1911 according to the census however I have an army letter from during the first war that suggest they were not married, my father was born 1923 and had I believe 5 siblings.

My Grandfather is listed as being born in Cheltenham but i think he was from Axe in Somerset but I know he grew up in Dursley .

[Dee33]

Therevis definitely a connection , I ll take a look at my records. She may be a sister or a cousin.  Mcintees were irish n greenhill was were they all lived at this peculiar time.

[Dee33]

My cousin said on the census gl  was glamorgan  but people confused it with gloucester

[Dee33]

On john mcintees wedding certificate it had andrew mackintee as a witness we are wondering if he was johns brother, as we know nothing of him previously to his marriage ... not even his birth. This could possibly be Bridgets dad or even andrew n john could be her uncles. There is a definite family connection with the mcintee name. It would be interesting to look at the census street list n see if anymore mcintees lived on owen street, a few lived on greenrow greenhill. Maybe we could look at owen st n see. Be interesting to find out. I do know johns dad was a john aswell n deceased at the time of john jnrs wedding which off the top of my head was 1885

[Cell]

Hi,

Have you got these ?
Andrew Mcintee , Sept qrt ( death) 1915 Swansea - estimated birth 1861
maybe your Andrew on the marriage cert.
...
This may be related too -  An Andrew Mackintee from "Green row"  was charged with stealing in 1899.
http://papuraunewyddcymru.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3342667/ART9/mackintee
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Soldiers effects 24/4 /1916:
Andrew Mackintee  reg no 11643 , listed on his record are sisters Bridget Long , Mary O'Brien and mother Mary. He resided in Aberavon at the time of his service.

Birth Place:
Swansea ,Residence Aberavon
Enlistment Place Llanelly
Rank Private
Welsh Regiment
8th Battalion
Regimental Number 11643
Killed in action


http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1657592/MACKINTEE,%20ANDREW

Apparently he was wounded in 1915 too
http://papuraunewyddcymru.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/4099994/ART72/mackintee
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John mcintee https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHYR-C71 his record is on Findmypast ( I haven't got a sub)


Kind Regards

Ps Have you got Bridget in the 1891? If not,  I think this is her lodging in Carmarthen  with her mother Mary and siblings Andrew and Mary ( I noticed that her brother Andrew joined up with the army in Carmarthenshire) .The Mother Mary is from London (occupation Pedlar and married, but no husband in the house with her) - She is under the name of "McIntee"
Bridget's oldest sibling Mary ( born abt 1884) is born in Cardiff, whilst Bridget and her brother Andrew are listed as being born in Swansea
( piece 4518 folio 16 page 13)

PPs Dee , regarding the children's births it definitely says Gloucester and not gl for glamorgan
If you check free BMD you will find the children's births.
I haven't checked them all except one of them , but they'll be easy enough to find
Here's one of their births:
 she was registered in the Jan/feb/march quarter of 1908
Long Mary Frances B   Gloucester 6a 313
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Kind regards

[Cell]

Hi,
A bit more info for you:
 
With a search of the BMD's - I think this is Bridget’s birth Sept qrt 1885 Bridget Macentee Swansea 11a  728 . I searched with just a Christian name of Bridget in Glamorgan to return all surnames – this is the closest match. None of the other Bridget births have a surname that is remotely like Mackintee.

If you haven't got her birth cert, I think it maybe your best bet is to order it to try and trace her family back and sidewards (or you could order  her brother Andrew's birth cert ). If I have found the right family in 1891 , (which I think I have  as Andrew’s effects lists his sisters  married surnames) , I think it will be difficult finding her family any further back than the 1891 census without more info, such as a father’s name, or knowing Mary's maiden name. Mary (Bridget's mother) is not an uncommon name, and her presumed  married name of Mackintee  could be under anything . I couldn’t find Bridget in 1901, do you have her in 1901?

On Frederick’s army record (1919) , which you probably have because you mentioned a letter (?) - the dates of birth of Bridget’s and Fredrick’s children:
Frederick 22/8/1906 born Walsall
Mary Francis Bridget  13/12/1907 B Gloucester (this matches the birth reg in the 1st qrt of 1908)
Kathleen 6/3/1911 B Swansea
John Albert 1/3/1913 B Cheltenham
Elizabeth Jane  3/6/1917 b Cheltenham
Next of Kin Bridget.
7 Waterloo st, Cheltenham (unmarried wife is written on the record)
It doesn’t look if they married ,according to his army record they were unmarried.  Along With his army record there is also a letter from the army and a letter to the army from Bridget regarding this. I also searched for a marriage.
Hope that helps
Kind Regards

[Dee33]

At present I am thinking that andrew married to bridget is my great great grandfather john mcintees brother. We only suspect as births are similar and on johns marriage certificate was an andrew mackintee as a witness. I am sure my cousin who knows more than me has info on their time in service. John did go in later in life and it is that record you sent. We are not sure what happened as his address was correct but from his marriage certificate it has his dob as 1864 and the time in service dob as 1868.this is were it goes cold as the only family members of pure mcintee are andrew as witness and father john on wedding certificate,  on here it has the father as deceased and a labourer.  We have come across a bridget before but are not sure. I will have a look at the address s in that street if I can access them as we let our subscription slide this yr. I will be in touch but my mums just been rushed into hospital so may take me little while . Thanks for your help I will definitely be in touch Dee