Eliza Jane Cameron and Helen (Cameron) Fordie

[portybelle]

I wonder if anyone can help me with these two great great aunts? I have quite a few questions about them.

Eliza Jane Cameron born 1878, Leith, Edinburgh
Helen (or Nelly) Cameron b 1886, Leith, Edinburgh

I know they both ended up in Canada and would like to know if possible when they emigrated. Helen married Andrew Lawson in 1913 in Leith so presumably it was after that.

I believe that Eliza Jane travelled with her nephews after both their parents had died, possibly around 1920. They would have the surname Fordie. I presume she went to stay with her sister.

Any other info such as did Eliza Jane marry, any children Helen and Andrew had, where in Canada they lived and any death dates would be fantastic but maybe not available.

Many thanks for any help.

[*Sandra*]

Eliza Jane Cameron (aged 39 years - waitress) appears on a Canadian Passenger List - 6 Jan 1920 - Columbia - Glasgow to New York. Archibald Fordie (aged 11 years) and William Fordie (aged 7 years)

There was a UK Return Passenger List - 22 July 1923 for Eliza Jane Cameron - aged 45 years. Montreal to Glasgow. Going to 3 Speirs Place. Leith. Threadmaker.

UK Outward Passenger List - Eliza J Cameron - aged 44 years - tourist - 12 October 1923 - Glasgow to Quebec on the Athenia.  Wm Cameron aged 12 also travelling

Sandra

[portybelle]

Yes that's her - 3 Speirs Place was the family home right up until the 1980s! So looks like she may have taken the nephews to live there but came back herself. The William she was with would be one of her many nephews - so many with the same name...

[*Sandra*]

Canada Oceans Arrivals Form (30A) - Eliza F Cameron born Edinburgh - Port of departure Toronto arrival Quebec. Date of Arrival 21 Oct 1923 - Athenia. Destined to sister Mrs Nellie Lawson., 10 Guestholme ??  Ave. Toronto. Had previously lived in Canada at the same address. Nearest relative country from whence came :- Alexander Cameron 3 Spiers Place. Leith.

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Canada Arrivals Form 30 A for William Fordie (1911 Leith) 21 October 1923 - going to the same address as above and names Alexander Cameron as nearest relative.

UK Incoming for William Fordie born 1911 aged 12 years - 22 July 1923 - Montreal - Glasgow on the Cassandra. Going to 3 Spier Place. Leith.

Eliza Cameron, William and Archibald Fordie appear UK Outward - 27 December 1919 - Glasgow to New York on the Columbia.

Sandra

[sami]

The birth date doesn't look quite right for Nellie, but could this be Andrew and Nellie Lawson with sons Frank and William on the 1921 Census?:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xlx/

sami

[portybelle]

Thank you both for that info. Amazing how much to-ing and fro-ing they did in those days. Yes despite the age being wrong that must definitely be Nelly and her husband and children. It is the same address as Sandra found on the passenger list. Brilliant!

Just re-reading Sandra's post - how strange that William Fordie came back again in July then returned in August. Wonder where his brother was?

[*Sandra*]

Frank Edward Lawson - April 1914 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and died April 1986 in  Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Marrried Bessie Hamblyn -  Born April 1914 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and died 1 Dec 1999 in  Whitby, Ontario.

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

According to anc tree Andrew Lawson died about 1925 (no source given)
Helen Cameron died about 1968 (no source given)

Sandra