mcalister

[bob.mac]

Have a family of 13 McAlister's inc. parents living in Co.Antrim. I have been able to find marriages of only 3 of 11 children. All records that i have been able to find concerning remaining 8 have only listed Culfreightrin as name place ( baptism records ) & (1851 extract ). How do i go about trying to locate remainder or is this a case of no paper trail ...no chance of finding them. Finding it really difficult to find records compared to Scotland. Doesn't help when i don't have a starting place.

[aghadowey]

Not sure that I understand everything that you've posted but you certainly do have a starting point- (from the baptismal records & 1851 census) Culfeightrin (not Culfreightrin)**- see here

You haven't provided us with any names for these 13 children or any real idea of when they were born or even the names of their parents but there's a very good chance that some died unmarried or left the area/Ireland. What to do now is search for each of the children you haven't been able to find yet...

Anything to do with previous topics?
Jane McAlister
McAlister Family
look up request
Ezekiel McAlister

** if any of the above topics pertain to this family then you have mentioned several townlands in the area

[bob.mac]

Hi Aghadowey,
Yes its the same family.
Have found births/marriages and deaths as said earlier. The problem arises as to where to locate remainder of family. Have tried IFHF for marriages to no avaiil. Know that 1 possibly 2 siblings were witnesses at marriages, with Ballyvoy & Ballypatrick mentioned, Glenmakeeran in extract. As far as i've been able to find out no one other than my g/grandfather left Ireland. Census records of 01 & 11 dont help either. My dillema seems to be where do i search now.
Thanks

[aghadowey]

Since it was the same family then there was no need to start another topic. Perhaps you could list the children, their birthdates (or approx. dates) and let us know any other details you have on the 'missing' ones so that we can try to find them.

What do you mean by 'Census records of 01 & 11 dont help either.'? that you haven't found then in either census? or something else?

[bob.mac]

Yes, Aghadowey. The fact that for most, all i have is Culfeightrin for baptism or census extract. No other records found, so to llink someone with same name and pos year of birth to mine( if still living ) is very hard, especially when i find it hard to get around Ireland records at the best of times.

James Mcalister (1845) Culfeightrin. (1851 census extract)
Alex. Mcalister (1846) Culfeightrin. (1851 census extract)
Charles Mcalister (1851) Culfeightrin. (1851 census extract), Baptism record (IFHF) 03/03/1851.
Sponsers : Daniel McCormick & Mary McLean.
Catherine Mcalister (1851) Culfeightrin. (1851 census extract).
Margaret Mcalister (1853) Culfeightrin. Baptism record (IFHF) 22/05/1853.
Sponsers : Daniel McCormick & Margaret McCambridge.
John Mcalister (1855) Culfeightrin. Baptism record (IFHF) 13/05/1855.
Sponsors : James Mcalister & Sarah Stewart.
Jane Mcalister (1863) Culfeightrin. Baptism record (IFHF) 01/08/1863.
Sponsors : Daniel McKinley & Mary McAlister.
Jane Mcalister was a witness at her sister Mary Mcalister's wedding to Charles McKiernan on 24/11/1881. Address given was Ballypatrick.
Mary & Charles resided in Turnaroan, (The Fair Head) . Mary's mother MaryAnn (Stewart) Mcalister also resided there.living with them, aged 88yrs in 1901 census.
Brother Robert married Margaret McKiernan in 1879 in Ballyvoy. Emigrating to Lanarkshire, Scotland there after.
As previously said Glenmakeeran was place name in 1851 extract.
That is all the info i have been able to find.
Thanks.
That's all the info i have on the missing.

[aghadowey]

It's more difficult to help when you don't post all the details that you already have. You mention 13 children but your post only mentions 9, you've said you found 3 marriages but not ones for the other 8, so you seem to have 13 children but haven't posted all of them. Through searching various other forums (more about this later) I have found 11 children that you know about which leaves 2 unaccounted for.

Starting with the 1851 census- according to any online lists I've found Glenmakeeran is not available. So, have you found it listed somewhere or have an extract for it from Old Age Pension application?
http://www.emeraldancestors.com/news/1851_Census_for_County_Antrim/47/

It would seem that the McAlisters moved around the area quite a bit but the Valuation Revision Books (which follow on from the printed version of Griffith's Valuation) have recently come online and you can use them to try tracking the family's movements (should be quite useful).
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

What I've bee able to re-construct so far-
Charles Mcalister (c1817) m.(c1844) Mary Ann Stewart (c1813-aft.1901)
1.   James Mcalister (c1845)
2.   Alex. Mcalister (c1846)
3.   John Mcalister (c1849-died 1851/c1855)
4.   Catherine Mcalister (c1851)
5.   Charles Mcalister (c1851)
6.   Margaret Mcalister (c1853)
7.   John Mcalister (c1855)
8.   Ezekiel Mcalister (c1857-1900?)
9.   Robert Mcalister (c1859)
10.   Mary Mcalister (c1861-aft.1901)
11.   Jane Mcalister (c1863-alive 1881)

Ezekiel Mcalister (c1857-1900?) m.(1882) Mary (Waters) Donoughy. With 1st husband Peter there was a son John Donoughy born 1879- have you tried searching for this son to find more details about mother Mary?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJQ-67P
The townland 'Terard' is possible supposed to be Tenaghs.

Robert Mcalister (c1859) went to Scotland- you should be able to trace him & family in Scottish records

Mary Mcalister (c1861-aft.1901) went to U.S.- you should be able to trace her & family in U.S. records

Have you found mother Mary (Stewart) Mcalister's death yet? the place of death and informant on the certificate might give you more details.

Possibly the family buried here without gravestone but there are lots of McAllisters, etc. there-
http://www.discovereverafter.com/graveyards/98/st-patricks-church-culfeightrin-ballyvoy-co-antrim

Have you seen query #86 on this page? http://www.ballycastle.info/genealogy.htm

[bob.mac]

I stand corrected aghadowey. When mentioning 13 children ,i had in fact counted son Robert's children and not Father Charles' children which had amounted to 11.
Had not listed ones that i had located Mary, Robert Ezekiel & John (1849).
It was a while ago that i found the doc on line and it was for 1851 and the area mentioned was Glenmakeeran. Charles if i remember correctly was entered as Shepherd. Although in other records he has been mentioned as gamekeeper and servant.
Robert McAlister (1859) is my g/grandfather and as such have located ALL census records and births for his children as well as DC and MC for all this family as well as next generation. With a few exceptions i have up to present day.
Mary McAlister(1861) at time of writing topic had thought left for U.S.A. but was later corrected and had remained in Ireland , Turnaroan (The Fair Head ). Her son Charles had left for U.S. and this is where i had made mistake.
Have not been able to locate Mary Ann ( Stewart ) DC yet.
the Query #86 that you mention i have read and from this i was able to gather the info concerning Mary given above. This Query transpired to be from Mary McAlister / Charles McKiernan's grand daughter who resides in U.S. Unfortunatly she like me has been having trouble tracking down family members, and she has been doing it for a coonciderable time longer than myself. She was however able to give me info on the McKiernan side of family.
Was not aware of Mary Waters (Donoughy) having had a child from previous marriage, if i'm honest it hadn't even entered my mind the possibility of there being a child from this marriage.
As for the Townland 'Terard' being ' Tenaghs', that is a bit of good news, being that Terard seemingly did not exist.