Charles Hatter Emigrated from England to NZ between 1871 and 1875

[New Zealander]

Remote perhaps,  but a possibility that occurred with another inquiry I had a couple of years ago.  Perhaps Charles Hatter traveled in a similiar way?

A family crossed the English Channel from England to travel from Ostend Belgium by the "Bremen Line" I think it was,  to Australia.  The passenger liner stopped first at Fremantle before the disembarked at Melbourne and made the final part of their journey to Bluff, New Zealand on another service.

The passage from Ostend, Belgium to Australia was finally located on Trove.

Something to ponder?

Alex G

[dragonlady403]

A stow away..? I must say I never considered that as a possibility, but given the rest of the story for this branch of the family, nothing would surprise me anymore.  It would sure make for a more interesting read!

If that was the case, there must be records or stories about other people and the process etc of being a stowaway.  I would think getting on board would be one issue, but staying on board as an "illegal" then getting off in port would present a whole new set of problems.

That being said, I would like to exhaust all possible options before assuming that. 

I am hoping there are some records in the one of the NZ gov repositories that might have something about the man and his arrival on their shores.

Thanks for the continued help... much appreciated!

[dragonlady403]

Hi Spades, no there is nothing at all on his death certificate, not even where he was born, parents names, nothing except his age and the name of his wife (with an incorrect surname anyway).

I also have the Wedding Certificate - again, nothing about either of the parties parents, lineage, place of birth etc.

Double Irish - I ran a check on PapersPast and his name showed up but it was nothing to do with his immigration/settlement (it was an assault charge).  Basically he only pops up in NZ when he marries Janet Ainslie Messer in 1876.  He was last known to be in the UK in the 1871 census so I have a 5 year gap to try to fill.

[dragonlady403]

New Zealander - I ran a check on TROVE but nothing came up for Charles... I will widen the search to see if one of his relatives ended up out there. 

Actually, this branch of the family has had a fairly small number of children.  Charles only had two siblings; he then had two living daughters, one of whom had no children as far as I know and the other only had two daughters, one of whom had no children and the other only had one! 

Charles' brother, according to research so far, remained in the UK (as did his sister I believe) and I don't think there was any contact between them anyway.

I am not working with a huge family network here. 

[SignalHill]

Could Charles have arrived in NZ with the Cottle family ?  There are a few of them around one family at North East Valley in Dunedin ?

Signal

[dragonlady403]

That's a very interesting idea! There was a long-time connection with that family and his brother married a Cottle.  I will sleuth around to see what I can find out.

Thanks, Carol

[New Zealander]

Another one to ponder :-

http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-23

Victorian Govt Record Office

Have fun

Alex G