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Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« on: Friday 10 January 14 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello:  I have just found this wonderful site and have been reading for a few days.  I recently found that my ancestor, Thomas A. Dillon, had two middle names, making him Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon.  I started a search on him, and before I'd finished typing, up popped Thomas Addis Emmet, an Irish patriot or rebel depending on your viewpoint? 

The article on Emmet mentioned a place in Dublin, called the White Bull, owned by John Dillon.  Emmet was eventually jailed and later emmigrated to New York.  I have to believe there is a close connection between my Dillon ancestor, his namesake, Thomas Addis Emmet and John Dillon.  I am in the middle of the US, wondering the best way to find records on Thomas Dillon, his possible father John Dillon and any other family.  Thomas Dillon was born in Dublin about 1794 plus or minus a year or two.
Thanks-  M.K.


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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 January 14 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi There MK and welcome to rootschat !

An unusual variation of names . . . . .

I did come across this . . .

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ecc65b0184978

Can you give us as much information as you have on Thomas Dillon first

ie - when did he leave Ireland ?
Do you have his parents names ?
Whom did he marry ?
Where in the US did he settle ?
What was his occupation ?
What paperwork do you have on him ?

Lots of questions but helps everyone when they are looking for records for you LOL !

Tara

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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 January 14 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi There

This is another baptism to the Addis Emmet couple !

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/696a890184894

Tara

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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 January 14 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi There

These people seem to have a LOT of info on the Addis Emmet family - I would try and contact them !

http://genforum.genealogy.com/emmett/messages/327

I was wondering MIGHT one of Thomas Addis Emmet's sisters have married a Dillon therefore making her children 'Addis Emmet Dillons' ?!

Tara


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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 January 14 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your replies,  taramc.  I didn't think info. on my ancestor's life over here would help much for searching over there, but here is what I have:
My 4xg.grandfather, Thomas A. Dillon had two middle names; Addis and Emmet/Emmett.

On November 24, 1821, he swore an affidavit, renouncing all allegiance and fidelity to.......particularly to the King of                    Great Britian and Ireland.  November 7, 1821, he signs another document, re: his intent to become a citizen of the United States, was born in Dublin, is 27 years of age and an Irishman; that he migrated from the province of Upper Canada, in March, 1814.  Both these documents (copies) are in my files, and both signed as, "Thomas A. Dillon."

He married Lucy Spike-  date unknown-  had several children and died in 1833, survived by his wife and children.  He is listed in the 1830 US census for the town of Phelps, Ontario County, New york and he died there.  According to the Phelps town historian, he was an inn keeper.

As I typed his name for an internet search, that's when Thomas Addis Emmet turned up; a member of the United Irishmen. A site I can't seem to locate again, mentioned that they would meet at the White Bull owned by John Dillon.  There does seem to be a lot of Addis and Emmet combinations out there.  I like your suggestion that perhaps an Emmet- female married a Dillon.  Perhaps the John Dillon of the White Bull?
This is getting very interesting....M.K.


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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 January 14 07:04 GMT (UK) »
From googling last night i found a reference that the White Bull was a public house in Thomas St ,Dublin.

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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 January 14 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi There

The reason for so many questions is to see what information that you already have verified for this person after they emmigrated.

You need as much exact detail as possible before even starting to look for Irish records

It is super hard to get pre 1864 records in Ireland without knowing where exactly the person came from so that you can search to see if parish records even still exist.

I really think the link that I sent you re the other people researching the same family would be your best bet as they really do seem to have already done a lot of work and should be able to point you in the right direction.

Best Of Luck

Tara


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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 January 14 16:25 GMT (UK) »
this may be of interest
http://humphrysfamilytree.com/Blennerhassett/emmet.html
also you might try to see a copy of this book - this is from the National Library Catalogue - but it possibly is available in other libraries.

http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000132922

annclare
Kerrisk, Healy, McGuire, Duggan - Kerry and US
Tuohy/Toohey,Gorman, Purcell, Fanning- Holycross Tipperary

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Re: Thomas Addis Emmet Dillon b. Dublin abt. 1794
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 January 14 05:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all who have replied and those who are reading.  And thanks to Dathai for confirming the existence of the White Bull pub.  Whatever website I found earlier for the pub seems to have disappeared.  Now, when I search the White Bull, I get a website for a gentleman who claims to channel the spirit of a Native American Indian chief named White Bull??!!

I may have caused some confusion with my first post.  I am searching DILLON, not Emmet.  My Dillon ancestor, Thomas Addis Emmet DILLON (born 1793/94) was obviously named for a famous member of the United Irishmen, Thomas Addis Emmet.  I found a reference that said the United Irismen including Mr. Emmett used to congregate in the 1790's at the White Bull owned by John Dillon.  My theory is that John Dillon having known Mr. Emmet and naming his son after him, might be my known ancestor's father.

I have no idea if there would be property, tax or church records etc. from that time period.  Also, I don't know when Thomas A.E. Dillon emigrated or if he was alone or with family when he did.