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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 26 April 14 14:24 BST (UK) »
There has been a little bit of movement on the mystery of what became of Alfred Thomas Wilson senior and his wife Kathleen.

The WWI Service Record remains inconclusive but cannot yet be ruled out. I have, therefore, taken an interest in the family story that Kathleen and ATW senior apparently separated after which Kathleen is thought to have made a new life for herself with George Moore. Could descendants of that couple (thought to be three children) solve the riddle?

The Grandson of ATW believes his own father, ATW junior, attended the funeral of his mother, Kathleen, in Montreal in the early 1960s. This prompted me to look further for the couple in the 1921 census. There is an entry for KATHELEEN MORE, born 1889 living with "husband" George More at 55 Canning in Quebec. Not everything fits but I note she states she is RC which is certainly correct.

I think this is a promising lead. Is there anyone out there who can help a mere Englishman to take this forward please? Is there an easy way to find Kathleen's death and perhaps next of kin?

I'd be most grateful for any help with this.

Geoff

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 27 April 14 02:00 BST (UK) »
 Not sure if you found this as they had the next page way off in timbucktooo ...Looks to be the correct family as Alfred age 14 is on the next page as More, with the actual More children... Could any or all of these younger children belong to Kathleen? I  also wonder if Kathleen's info was partially mixed up with George's or if she just fibbed about her ancestry.
Alfred More 14
Wilson More 12 ( Hmmmm?)
William More 6
Beatrice More 5
Clarence More 3
May More 1

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Lovell's directory for1920-1921 has:   Geo Moore Milk Driver  55 canning
http://bibnum2.bnquebec.ca/bna/lovell/index.html
Use : Série principale (1842-1977) then you can cross reference street or alphabetical listings
Or for just the surname listings and year , this is a shortcut http://stevemorse.org/montreal/montreal.html
I think they were only at 55 Canning that one year. He appears to be at 172a Canning the next few years, a milk driver...as Moore...and later becomes a civic employee, and then a senior emplyee at Dominion Text - living at 608 Canning nearer the mid century
I found no evidence of her under Doherty or Willson/Wilson, but you may have better luck...

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 27 April 14 03:40 BST (UK) »
Not that it helps as Wilson is likely George's son from first marriage but this may be his marriage
Wilson James Moore & Myrtle Mathilde Chestmore marriage 1837 Montreal Quebec, if anyone wants to look onto it, as I can't see who the parents are.  ( If correct lad then wife's actual surname may have been Chisamore...which reminds me, you could contact the paper to see if they have a database to search for Kathleen's death in the 60's
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?n=myrtle-moore&pid=157282666

also if that is the correct family they may have some memory of Kathleen...mind you, if that was he, that marriage seems to not name children
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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 27 April 14 04:20 BST (UK) »
Just found on Google maps that this church is minutes away from where they lived
http://www.diocesemontreal.org/en/the-church-in-montreal/our-churches/our-parishes/paroisse/saint-anthony-of-padua.html

Mind you if he was Irish he may have preferred to worship elsewhere.
http://www.pbalkcom.com/valcartier/Research%20Guides/irish_catholic_churches_in_q.htm
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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 27 April 14 06:56 BST (UK) »
Not that it helps as Wilson is likely George's son from first marriage but this may be his marriage
Wilson James Moore & Myrtle Mathilde Chestmore marriage 1837 Montreal Quebec, if anyone wants to look onto it, as I can't see who the parents are.  ( If correct lad then wife's actual surname may have been Chisamore

The marriage entry in the Drouin Collection gives Wilson Moore's parents as George Moore and Helen Rowe. They were married 27 Mar 1937. You are correct about Myrtle's surname being Chisamore. They were married in the United Church Calvin Westminster parish.

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #41 on: Monday 28 April 14 08:35 BST (UK) »
Wonderful replies, thank you.

There's quite a lot to follow up but it should now prove possible to find living descendants of this family. I will post progress!

Geoff

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 29 April 14 19:06 BST (UK) »
The latest information to come in from RootsChat has enabled me to speak this afternoon to a descendant of the Moore family in Montreal.

She is 90 years old and very willing to do all she can to help. It seems the Moore line is close to extinction! I have agreed to write to her setting things out so that she can consider how best to help. She knows of Kathleen Wilson's place of burial in Montreal and has a photograph of her. As I feared she knows nothing of Alfred Thomas Wilson but I'm truly delighted that part of the mystery will shortly be solved.

My thanks to the many people who have contributed to this research without which there could not have been such an exciting outcome.

Thanks and good wishes,

Geoff

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 29 April 14 20:47 BST (UK) »
Wow! How exciting! It is always so gratifying to learn that a connection has been made. Thanks for letting us know.

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Re: Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 30 April 14 00:19 BST (UK) »
Yay, Canada Board, you are awesome! Well, all the boards are, and we are too.  ;D

Best wishes to you Geoff,  Terry, and the Moore family...Glad a connection was made. J.J.
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