Alfred Thomas Wilson (ATW)

[g.crighton]

ATW born 1885 in Manchester England, married Kathleen Josephine Doherty in 1907, also in England.

Passenger Lists show Kathleen and their son Alfred Thomas Wilson born about 1907/8 heading for Montreal in 1911. Later listings of further trips suggest Toronto as their place of residence.

I have yet to find the family in the Canadian 1921 census.

Any information about this family would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Geoff Crighton

[*Sandra*]

Alfred Thomas or Thomas Alfred Wilson  (1882/3)  appears on border crossing and seems to make a few trips to Duluth Minnesota from 1907/1908
Elusive on the 1921 census so far 

Sandra

[Jacquie in Canada]

Do you know the date of birth for Alfred (senior)? There is a death registration in British Columbia for an Alfred Thomas Wilson with the birth date listed as 27 Jul 1885 who died in Vancouver on 21 Oct 1953. Unfortunately the spaces for his parents' names are listed as "unknown" and it says he was a widowed. It does say he had been in BC and Canada for 46 years which would match an immigration year of about 1907. Some of the information may be out a little since the informant was not a family member (Veterans' Affairs). Here's the link in case is the right Alfred: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xjy/

One problem with this is there are Attestation Papers for an Alfred Wilson with a birthday of 27 Jul but his birth year is listed as 1875. His next-of-kin was his mother (transcribed as Mary but it looks like Mercy to me) and he was born in Yorkshire. It's possible this death registration could be for this Alfred or a different one.

Jacquie

[g.crighton]

Hello Sandra

Thanks very much. I'll have a look at that. It did occur to me that the Wilsons might have been elsewhere in 1921. So far I've been unable to get a lead from Ancestry - such a tiresome name! I've looked in UK records in case they returned but so far haven't spotted them.

Alfred Thomas's Mother-in-law was Mary Alice Crighton, hence my interest. Her brother, John Crighton, emigrated to Toronto in 1912 so a connection with the Wilsons seems likely.

Best

Geoff Crighton

Your continuing interest would be appreciated.

[g.crighton]

Hello Jacquie

Alfred senior was born 24 July 1885 in Manchester. His father was Thomas Wilson and mother, Mary Alice Crighton, my great aunt.

The Vancouver record looks interesting but the Yorkshire connection doesn't fit. Are there published birth records for Vancouver? A further child of Alfred and Kathleen would help.

Thanks for your interest, much appreciated.

Geoff Crighton

[rosie17]

Hi Geoff .....You can search the records at www.royalbc museum.bc.ca I also seen the death in 1953 but was not sure where Alfred was born

[g.crighton]

Hello Rosie

Thanks. I'm looking more closely at the 1953 death of ATW in Vancouver. It indicates he was buried in Mount View Cemetery. An online index to the cemetery records doesn't show him though points out there errors and omissions. I'm trying to locate the custodians of the original registers. There is just a chance of a family grave which might tie things together.

Geoff

[Jacquie in Canada]

The Vancouver record looks interesting but the Yorkshire connection doesn't fit. Are there published birth records for Vancouver? A further child of Alfred and Kathleen would help.

Birth registrations in BC are protected for 120 years after birth. They changed the rules a few years ago after births from 1903 had already been released.

I've found Attestation Papers for an Alfred Wilson with a birth date of 24 Jul 1884 who was born in Manchester and lists Mrs. M. Wilson of 145 Stockport(?) Road, Manchester as next-of-kin but he says he is not married. Here is a link to that entry: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xk2/
There is a link there for ordering a copy of the file if you wish.

Here is the link for the first page of the Attestation Papers for the Alfred Wilson born 27 Jul 1875:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xk1/.

I'm wondering whether it's possible Kathleen and Alfred (junior) returned to England without Alfred (senior). With that in mind, here's a link to an entry from the 1921 Canada census for an Alfred Wilson in Vancouver whose age and immigration year matches up with what we found for your Alfred: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xk3/
 
Jacquie

[Ken MacLean]

Geoff,

Is this the Wilson you are looking for? See Death Notification Card attached. Died 17-10-53, buried Mountain View Cemetery, Soldiers Plot, Blk 27, Plot 51, Lot 8.

http://tinyurl.com/m728xev

Cheers, Ken