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Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« on: Wednesday 08 January 14 22:08 GMT (UK) »
John Pallen d 1849 in London and in his will mentions his property "in the village of Norham in the county of Durham". He also mentions his brother William and various of William's family.

Another John Pallen, also a tailor, d 1832 in Norham and left his effects to his wife Margaret and to his son John, tailor, in London.

It seems fair to assume that the second was the father of the first and of William.

But where is/was Norham? And can anyone help me find any trace of John snr and Margaret's marraige, or of John jnr or William's birth? I've found John jnr in the 1841 census in Norfolk St, Marylebone (his address as per the older one's will); no age is given and he was born out of county. William had emigrated to Canada by then so I have no further info on him.

There are of course other possible spellings of "Pallen"!

Thanks for any help!
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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the Norham you are looking for?

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Norham/
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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Found a baptism

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:    John Palin
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    01 Jul 1772
Christening Place:    Norham, Northumberland, England
Father's Name:    John Palin
Mother's Name:    Margaret   
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:    I04678-9
System Origin:    England-EASy
GS Film number:    2193523
Reference ID:    item 18 p 23

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSD9-TMN

and also

Name:    George Palin
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    21 Jan 1776
Christening Place:    Norham, Northumberland, England
Father's Name:    John Palin   
Mother's Name:    Margaret
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:    I04678-9
System Origin:    England-EASy
GS Film number:    2193523
Reference ID:    item 18 p 27
Willsy

Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked for your family here?:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xis/ 
Unsure what is covered, but it may come in handy for other family members.


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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 23:32 GMT (UK) »
So while looking for William, I found a marriage and then a tree online with the marriage

Married Elizabeth Skym, record is online

9 Jan Age: 26
St Martin in the Fields, London, England

children
William George, Peter, Margaret Jane, Elizabeth, Catherine, John who is as Dr. going to New Brunswick with wife and 5 children. First settled in
1820 Chatham Northumberland County,  Brunswick
1831 Bathurst Gloucester County Canada
11 Jan 1858 death age 90

Found Peter's baptism, father tailor St Pancras but it's getting late and not looked for the rest, date for tomorrow!
Willsy

Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Was just typing it out as we cross posted :)
Willsy

Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks folks!

I know of William Pallen's and Elizabeth Skym's marraiges and of their offspring in Canada, although I haven't followed the Canadian line further as Peter Pallen is the direct line ancestor I'vve been looking at. He seems to be the only one of that generation who didn't emigrate to Canada, and also the only one who wasn't left a bequest in his uncle John's will!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 January 14 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the Genuki ref; on there was a link to graveyard memorials and I think I've found the family, but listed as PAULIN.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Pallen, somewhere in NE England/Canada
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 February 15 07:06 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather was William Pallen, great grandmother Melinda, came to Canada, from France to England, New Brunswick..