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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 January 14 00:47 GMT (UK) »
This is in reference to the following:
"Interestingly we have just received an autobiography written by R.M.SIBBETT in 1909 about a William Montgomery SPEERS, born at Speerstown, near Cullybackey on 18-MAR-1832, a major player in the 1859+ religious revival in Ulster. [We understand that RMS was a neighbour of the HILLs in Ballyhenry.]"
Is the book you are referring to: R M Sibbett's The Revival in Ulster (Belfast: J W Boyd, 1909)? If it is a different title may I trouble you for a citation?  William Montgomery Speers is my great great grandfathers (James) younger brother.  I believe they had a sister who went to Australia but cannot get beyond James and William.
Thanking you in advance,
Alexandra

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 January 14 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Might you know the Speers genealogy, David Speers to Gordon Speers to WM John & James Speers....they tend to be of Ballyrobert but most Ballycraigy. I believe Mary Speer (nee Graham) Campbell is related to this particular line, now trying to figure out how. Thanks for any assistance. Michelle
Michelle - Michigan USA

Townlands of Creevamoy and Ballyligpatrick:
Surname: Graham

Townlands of Drummuck & Drumlickney:
Surname: Gordon

Townland of Ballylig:
Surnames: Moffat/Moffet, Boyd, and Knowles

Townland of Ballycraigy:
Surnames: Campbell, and Speer/Spear,

Townland of Loughconnelly:
Clark or Clarke

County Antrim:
Surnames: Craig, Morton, Huston/Houston

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 12 January 14 02:27 GMT (UK) »
Alexandra,

The book is a small green paperback (~A6 size).

THE REVIVAL IN ULSTER; or
THE LIFE STORY OF A WORKER
By R.M. SIBBETT

Belfast:
Printed and Published by J.W. Boyd, 2, Union Street
1909

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We only know of a family of that name as farming neighbours in Ballycraigy.
[Fellow renters from the TURNLYs.]

You might be best to start a new topic for your wider/deeper SPEERS interests in this conference.

Very interested to hear if your family had any links with Donegore, or with Newtownards.

Capt. Jock & Revving Jock (who is much interested in what motivated folks religiously)
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 12 January 14 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello - this is to answer the two current responses to my inquiry.  First, many thanks. 
My Speers line comes out of Londonderry and Antrim. My 2ND grt grandfather James married a Mary Stewart and they had 11 children, that I know of, including a David Speers born Apr 1871, Magherafelt. I know nothing more about this person.  However James' eldest surviving son, William,   married 1) Margaret Wright had a son David Speers born 26 Sep 1879, Carndaisy who married a Mary Ward and died in 1943.  This gentleman moved to Scotland and spelled his last name Spiers.  There are no Speers by the first name Gordon in my family that I have traced so far. I see no David's in my 3grt uncles, William Montgomery Speers, line either. The Speers are a difficult lot to sort out. Good luck on it.
Thank you for the info on the Speers book. I have a photocopy of that one and it makes interesting reading unfortunately Sibbett only tantalizes and doesn't give names and dates of parents etc. I haven't come across anything related to Newtownards or Donegore at this time.
James was buried in a cemetery, identified as the family burial site, in Desertlyn, Moneymore. William Montgomery Speers was buried in Town Hill Cemetery with graveside services conducted by the Rev T C Jasper, minister of the First Portglenone Presbyterian Church.
Alexandra


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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 January 14 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Good day

Another book by Robert Sibbett, “On the Shining Bann: Records of an Ulster Manor”, gives much detail of goings-on around Portglenone. John SPEERS (sometimes written SPEAR) was a "Grand Juror" (like a town committee member) in the early 19th century.

The North of Ireland Family History Society (NIFHS), where Rosemary Sibbett is a stalwart, will sell you a CD - there's a plug!

Robert was a long-time Belfast journalist and author, and (as Capt Jock says) a neighbour of the Hills, but by that time they were all "down the Hill" near the Antrim road rather than in Ballyhenry townland.

The book also mentions several Sibbetts of Killycoogan and Gortgole and a whole raft of other families. A sample:

North of these residents and neighbouring the road from Portglenone to Rasharkin were the Reids, the Rosses, the Wallaces, the Meeks‘, the Dallass‘s, the Marshalls, the Wilsons, and the Kilpatricks, while towards the Bann were the Adams‘s, the Reas, more Barkleys, the Mooneys, the M‘Caughrins, the M‘Sparrons, the M‘Kees (Owen and Patrick), the Reillys, the Gortgole Reids – a fine old family, which came from Gortfadd – the M‘Grogans, the Evans‘s, the M‘Clenaghans, the Boltons, the Glasses of the Burnside, the Richmonds, the M‘Auleys, the M‘Taggarts, the Ferris‘s, and many others. South and East of the M‘Donnells also resided the Kellys, the M‘Allisters, the Dripps‘s (now the Campbells), the Surgeoners, the Boyds, the M‘Caugheys (of Killycoogan), the Carsons, the Greers, the Kyles, the Taylors, the McCaws, Lisrodden and Killycoogan (the latter family is now substituted by the Simpsons), the Duncans, the M‘Grandles, the Glasses of Bracknamuckley, the Scotts, the Laws, the M‘Ilmoyles, then, towards the Bann, the Andrews‘s, the Stewarts (Whitehill), the O‘Neills (of Rosegift), the M‘Erleans, the Raineys, the O‘Haras, the Glovers, and others of the farming population, who had many sub-tenants, all splendid specimens of manhood and womanhood. 

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 14 January 14 12:10 GMT (UK) »
John SPEERS of Ballyclare was around in the mid 1920s. He contributed to a booklet of quotations published on behalf of (probably to raise funds for...) 1st Ballyeaston Presbyterian. Printed by John Adams of Belfast, but no printer's date. W J Harrison was still their minister and I reckon about 1924.

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Michelle,

We haven't forgotten you!
[Are you still able to see the sun thru' the skylights?!]

There's been a lot of spearin' goin' on here, though not many answers yet!

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Time for the CAMPBELLs to make their 2nd coming.

Revisited my transcriptions of some of McKinney's diaries, to find that I also have CAMPBELL ancestry.

James FERGUSON
  = (31-OCT-1723)
    Agnes CAMPBELL

7th child (born 39 years in to marriage ... hmm!)
John FERGUSON (1762 - 15-SEP-1837)
  = (08-APR-1787)
    Mary McCOUGHTRY (1763 - 23-MAR-1845)

1st child.
Jane "Jennie" FERGUSON (02-MAR-1788 - 25-FEB-1871)
  = (06-NOV-1821)
    James SCOTT (- FEB-1848)

So, we might be cousins, through Agnes' ancestors.

[Not sure which of the CAMPBELL, FERGUSON, McCOUGHTRY or SCOTT genetic influences explains the red hairs appearing in my moustache lately!]

We now know (from Rittrock, thanks) that the FERGUSONs lived at the top of the Kiln Road, right in the NE corner of Ballyvesey (Griffiths plots 7A & 7B) just West of the McKINNEYs in Sentry Hill. abutting the Northern boundary of Ballycraigy.
[They were neighbours of the QUERNs, ministers at Ballycraigy Cg.]

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The CAMPBELL clan played major roles in Scottish history, with their leaders losing their heads over their support for the Covenanters (1640s, against King Charles I) and for Cromwell (1650s, against King Charles II), though things fared better when they opposed the Jacobite cause (1715 & 1745).

There is much online about the family origins.
A 17thC perspective from an Ulster viewpoint can be read here.
http://www.thereformation.info/montms.htm

Keep your spirits up!

Capt Jock
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 00:38 GMT (UK) »
I actually have a (not very good) reprint of the Sibbett book "On the Shining" along with a separate index.  If the CD is a clean copy and easily read I might be interested - my eyes aren't getting any younger.
Snowed in in Virginia,
Alexandra

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Re: Campbell Family/Carnmoney
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 10:45 GMT (UK) »
It's BACK!  The PR word..... =  (Polar Vortex).  Brrrrrr .....this morning as I rise I learn it is -9 degrees and they are saying MORE snow is coming tonight! We've already recieved a total...... WITH 3 months of winter to go a...... about 45" of snow fallen already. So we are still diggin our way out. 

Red hairs/moustache....funny!  Some Scandanavian perhaps ????

Yep, still looking for Campbell information. I did write to the fella who has the McKinney info, but to date, he hasn't written back.

Quern is an interesting name as well. One of Mary Speer (nee Graham) Campbell (b. 1818 d. 1887), who was the wife/widow of Samuel Campbelll b. circa 1809 d. 1854 (s/o James Campbell and Margaret Parker)...named a son James Campbell, he was 2nd born, and he and his wife named a son David Quern Campbell. This David Quern Campbell died about 1.5 months after his father James Campbell (b. circa 1843), in the year 1927. Both are buried at Carnmoney. So I did see that there was a Rev. Quern and wondered if there was another relationship to the Campbells and/or James' wife's family.

Mary was born on the Townland of Creevamoy, near Broughshane, Co Antrim Ireland.  think her parents were COI, as her father married 2nd in 1846 and he and his wife were COI per the marriage entry I do have. So I am seeking to find Samuel and Mary's marriage entry, probably COI. They married circa 1837, but just not sure where. Perhaps COI records would reveal their marriage information -- yet to order those films in to review. I did write to the First Pres. Church of Ireland -- as that is where her brother, my line, Nathaniel Graham and his wife were married and had their 7 children baptised before they removed from Ireland for Ontario Canada, later state of Michigan.

All I know :-)

Michelle
Michelle - Michigan USA

Townlands of Creevamoy and Ballyligpatrick:
Surname: Graham

Townlands of Drummuck & Drumlickney:
Surname: Gordon

Townland of Ballylig:
Surnames: Moffat/Moffet, Boyd, and Knowles

Townland of Ballycraigy:
Surnames: Campbell, and Speer/Spear,

Townland of Loughconnelly:
Clark or Clarke

County Antrim:
Surnames: Craig, Morton, Huston/Houston