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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 29 January 15 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Blackchurch and Dunderry are two different cemeteries. Blackchurch is an older site (to the west of Dunderry - see photo) and Dunderry cemetery is to the east. If the weather is suitable, I will pop over to both tomorrow to see what I can find. They are only 10 minutes from here.

Quite by accident, I came across an Australian family tree of a John Newman (Bridget's uncle) and it detailed both James/Mary's parents (Michael b: abt 1804 and Mary (nee Brien) b: unknown ) and their parents Michael (b: 1759) and Mary (b: 1752). I have yet to corroborate any of this info elsewhere.

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« Reply #28 on: Friday 30 January 15 12:19 GMT (UK) »
OK, it appears that there was an error on that Australian tree. James Newman's father (Bridget's paternal grandfather) was Thomas Newman and not Michael.

Regarding Blackchurch cemetery, I didn't have to traipse around it, as a local historian had a transcript of the headstone engraving and it filled in some missing dates on my tree. There are four headstones for the Newmans in Blackchurch (also called Meadstown or Clonmacduff cemeteries). Here are the transcripts (my comments in brackets)....

8)  NEWMAN  no date – Small stone with peaked top and cross on a mount.  “ERECTED BY THOMAS NEWMAN OF ONGENSTOWN IN MEMORY HIS AUNTS ELLEN CARTY AND ANNE NEWMAN”.  R I P & W.  RENNICKS at bottom. 

9)  NEWMAN 1917-1960 – Ringed cross with flaming heart in centre of a domed stone and a raised frame around inscription.  “ERECTED BY THOMAS NEWMAN (Bridget's brother) ONGENSTOWN IN LOVING MEMORY OF HIS WIFE FANNY WHO DIED 10TH JAN. 1917 AGED 40 YEARS.  THEIR SON PATRICK DIED THE 24TH JANy 1922.  THE ABOVE THOMAS NEWMAN DIED THE 12 FEBy 1942 AGED 68 Yrs.  R I P at centre bottom,  GERRERD on left bottom and NAVAN on right. 

32)  NEWMAN 1965 & 66 – A modern grey stone with IHS at top and a cross on each side of the inscription. Curb around the grave.  “ERECTED BY MICHAEL NEWMAN IN LOVING MEMORY OF HIS WIFE ROSE DIED 16TH NOV. 1966.  HIS SISTER KITTY DIED 3rd OCT. 1965.  ALSO HIS PARENTS R I P”. Newman at bottom and RENNICKS HIGH ST. TRIM.

37)  NEWMAN 1862-1960 – This stone has a rounded top with IHS in the centre.   “ERECTED BY JAMES NEWMAN (Bridget's father) IN LOVING MEMORY OF HIS MOTHER MARY NEWMAN (Brien?) WHO DIED 6th JUNE 1862.  ALSO HIS FATHER THOMAS NEWMAN WHO DIED 7TH OCT. 1884.  PETER (Son?) DIED 17th MARCH 1891 AGED 5 YEARS.  PATRICK (Son?) DIED 26th FEB. 1898 AGED 21 YEARS.  HIS DAUGHTER MRS BRADY (probably Mary Newman) DIED 25th DEC 1912 AGED 32 YEARS.  HIS SON MICHAEL DIED 24th APR. 1915 (1st World War?) AGED 24 YEARS.  THE ABOVE JAMES DIED 27th NOV. 1916 AGED 71 YEARS.  AND HIS WIFE MARY (Flood) DIED 2nd DEC. 1917 AGED 60 YEARS.  MARY ROSE NEWMAN DIED 25th AUG 1933 AGED 33 Yrs.  AND HER  HUSBAND JOHN (not found link to these two yet) DIED 26th DEC. 1960 AGED 80 Yrs R I P”.  At bottom GERRARD NAVAN.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #29 on: Monday 02 February 15 08:05 GMT (UK) »
bumpydog.

Thanks for all the info. There wasn't a transcript from the cemetery for a grave for Bridget Crawley?

Thanks

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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #30 on: Monday 02 February 15 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Chris. There are no inscriptions in Blackchurch cemetery with the name Bridget Crawley/Newman. According to my historian source, the vast majority of burials in the area had no headstones/inscriptions.


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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #31 on: Monday 02 February 15 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Bumpydog

Thanks I thought you would say that.

I have started putting the info into some sort of order starting with James and Mary's children. I know that the 1901 Census and 1911 census ages disagree but if that is all I have to go on I have included that,

From 1911 Census they had 10 children 7 still alive:

1.   Thomas Born 22 Feb 1874, DIED 12 FEB 1942 AGED 68 Yrs
2.   Patrick Born 01 Mar 1876, DIED 26th FEB. 1898 AGED 21 YEARS.
3.   James Born 15 Sep 1878.
4.   Mary Newman Born 19 Jan 1881, DIED 25th DEC 1912 AGED 32 YEARS? Married Peter Brady.
5.   Bridget Born 1885? (1901 Census) Married Michael Crawley.
6.   Peter Born 1986? DIED 17th MARCH 1891 AGED 5 YEARS.
7.   John Born 1886? (1911 Census)
8.   Michael Born 1891? (1911 Census) DIED 24th APR. 1915 AGED 24 YEARS.
9.   Annie Born 1894? (1911 Census) Married Charles Baker.
10.   ???

Does this agree with your research?
Can you fill in any gaps?
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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 03 February 15 10:39 GMT (UK) »
I still have quite a lot of work to do to confirm dates and have about 20 certificates to browse when I get a day free to head to the records office. Thomas married Fanny (who I am sure is Frances Boylan). Mary married Peter Brady and had a son, Thomas (who shows up in the James Newman 1911 census (aged 4) as his son-in-law, when he was clearly his grandchild, along with another James Newman, aged 7 (unsure of his parents at the moment until I check certs)! John was probably born in 1883 and not 1886 (again, checking certs). Not sure why the discrepancy of surname Crowley vs Crawley.

One other interesting fact, which might explain the age issues between the 1901 and 1911 census data, is that the pension rules were changed in 1908 and it appears that many people aged a few years to qualify :-)

Much more will become clear when I get so see some birth/marriage/death certificates.

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Re: Bridget Crawley
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 08:33 GMT (UK) »
bumpydog

Thanks.

One of the brothers in law at Thomas's funeral was O. Boylan which supports your theory about Francis.

I look forwards to hearing from you after you have visited the records office.

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