Does this say Mary E Douglass?

[Ladyhawk]

This name has been transcribed as Mary E Douglass (Manchester 1878) but I'm not absolutely convinced it does say Mary.

 She appears on the 1881 census in the household of my G/Grandfather William Walker(Manchester 1862).

She is listed as a grandchild of the head of the household - Elizabeth Walker(Leek 1825). I have only found one sibling for William, who was in the household, Agnes 1865.

 I'm trying to find out about this 3 year old, as it may be the child of another sibling of William.

Have tried you looking for her on the 1891 census?

Perhaps her pob may not be Manchester (it's dittoed as Manchester on 1881c)

So far I've not been able to find a marriage for Elizabeth to James Walker, I need to investigate further with that.

Elizabeth Walker born c1825 Leek looks to be living with her brother James NEWBY at School Farm Warbrick
he died 1933 probate to Emma NEWBY spinster (his daughter) living with him 1891.

There this marriage entry FreeBMD & Lancashire BMD

Marriage 1856 Salford
Elizabeth NEWBY name on same page James WALKER

1856 Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended   Salford
NEWBY   Elizabeth   
WALKER   James

possible baptism from Lancashire OPC

Baptism: 9 Mar 1828 St John the Baptist, Tunstall, Lancashire, England
Betty Newby

Baptism: 20 Dec 1831 St John the Baptist, Tunstall, Lancashire, England
James Newby
Abode: Leck James Newby  Occ Farmer mother Mary


   

[Poppyjoey]

 Ladyhawk,

I've not been able to find anything else for a Mary E Douglas….. but I will keep looking!

Thank you for the info about Elizabeth Newby being a possible match as spouse of James Walker. What year census is she with a brother James Newby?

Kit,

Yes, that's the census entry I found, but I still can't find them in 1871! I've so far not found any other possible children of James and Elizabeth. One of them may be the parent of the Mary E Douglas.

Many thanks
Julie

[KitCarson]

Well done Ladyhawk, looks promising.  Kit

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you for the info about Elizabeth Newby being a possible match as spouse of James Walker. What year census is she with a brother James Newby?

Apologies it's the 1891 census RG12; Piece: 3452; Folio: 18; Page: 8

[Poppyjoey]

Ladyhawk   -   Found it! You've really given me something to go on, thank you!

I need to check out the marriage you found in 1856, and I would hope there are more children as the earliest one I could fine was William 1862. Hopefully a female child who married a Douglas……


Thank you
Julie

[Ladyhawk]

RG 9; Piece: 2900; Folio: 52; Page: 6

I wonder if this is James & Elizabeth Walker on 1861 census

22 Hyde St Hulme Manchester
James Walker 44 Cheshire Coachman
Elizabeth ditto 33 Leek westmorland
James ditto 13 Manchester
George ditto 11 ditto
Mary Newby ditto 7 bis?ham
Alice Newby 3 Manchester
Thomas ditto 1 Manchester

[Poppyjoey]

The only children of James & Elizabeth Walker I'd found so far were born at 22 Hyde St! It all ties in! Thank you so much for your help Ladyhawk. I don't know how you found the census entries so quickly…I struggled.

Julie

[Ladyhawk]

RG 9; Piece: 2900; Folio: 52; Page: 6

I wonder if this is James & Elizabeth Walker on 1861 census

22 Hyde St Hulme Manchester
James Walker 44 Cheshire Coachman
Elizabeth ditto 33 Leek westmorland
James ditto 13 Manchester
George ditto 11 ditto
Mary Newby ditto 7 bis?ham
Alice Newby 3 Manchester
Thomas ditto 1 Manchester

I haven't found the above Walker family in 1871 but I think that  James Walker was previously married wife Ann and two children older children Charles 11 & Sarah 7

1851 census son James age 4 & George age 1 his occupation is coachman

HO107; Piece: 2232; Folio: 40; Page: 72

[Poppyjoey]

I'm going to be busy tomorrow, getting my head around all this. I am so chuffed….thank you….

Julie