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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 31 July 14 08:09 BST (UK) »
Wow, impressive information about the uniform, Portonian. That's what makes reading rootschat threads so fascinating!

The chap looks very young for 40...
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 31 July 14 08:57 BST (UK) »
I still tend to agree this is a genuine sailor,
There are many pics of ww1 sailors in uniform and without seven pleats in the trousers and without trade badges on sleeves of ratings.
The ww1 HMS  cap tally is also seen in use for ww1 personnel  as are others with ships' names , I simply googled ww1 Royal Navy sailors and the info is available to see, even different ways the lanyard is configured on the wearer.
So I am of the opinion, with the help of Mr. Google, this man is a genuine naval rating.
Many RNR men also left their occupation in fishing or Merchant Marine to attend annual training at RN bases for which they received a bounty.
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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 31 July 14 09:48 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the information. Football hmm..Scotland I don't think he even played for The Broch! (sorry Brooch fans) My gran probably picked up the cap at a jumble sale and kept it in the photo box to make up wee stories for me.  I do remember the cap was a little maroon skull cap with gold braiding and a gold tassel.

I'm not sure if they were still in Fraserburgh when this picture was taken or had moved to Dundee. The youngest child was born in Fraserburgh in 1914 so if my Gran was four or less it's Fraserburgh.

William does look young for 40 - good genes- my Gran looked young for 40 too. He was a cooper by trade just like his father. His son (same name) died in WW2 and is remembered at Yokohama War Cemetery.

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 01 August 14 06:40 BST (UK) »
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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 04 December 14 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Finally got to the point of writing up this period in the family history so thought I'd better download my GG Dad's records.  It looks like he was on the 'Eagle' from 29/4/1915 to 15/1/1919. There are a number of stamps for 'naval prize money' dated 1922...a couple that add up to £18 and further one for £2. Is there a way to find out how the crew of the Eagle earned this money?
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JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 05 December 14 08:09 GMT (UK) »
It should say on the person's record what the prize money was awarded for, In my grandfather's record it says "Prize bounty awarded for the Falkland Islands Battle and the destuction of Dresden,
Dresden being the German Cruiser SMS Dresden and the Falkland Islands Battle was the sinking of SMS Nurnburg December 1914,
His prize money was awarded 25.4.1917.
Hope this helps

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 05 December 14 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks James,
I've attached a clip that shows the award - maybe it was just from a general fund? I know this is probably a stupid question but any idea what P.I.C. stands for?
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JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 05 December 14 09:44 GMT (UK) »
It may have been a general prize fund that was shared out among many from different vessels, can't help any more on that I'm afraid.
Three letter Acronyms (TLAs) are the bain of many researchers, theonly thing I could find on PIC was personal information cell, or person in charge.

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Re: Creased Granny with her father in "navel uniform"?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 05 December 14 11:05 GMT (UK) »
one i was working on, didn't realise so many others now ;)
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