"Old Kings Head" & "Westminster Arms"

[syljun]

Hoping someone can help in finding who lived at above Hotels in 1943 & 1944. I believe the Proprietor was a Mrs. Dorothy Muriel Valentine Pask.
"Old Kings Head" 36 Marsham St. St.John, Westminster
"Westminster Arms" 75 Page St. St.John, Westminster S.W.1

I am trying to establish if possible if a Henry Harding together with wife Bessie (nee Radford nee Pask) were working or helping to run one of these Hotels and in particular any info. on Henry to establish if possible age and where born.  Henry and Bessie married 1943 (Hendon, London reg.) Both of mature age, Bessie would be 62. Born Monmouth 1881. Henry possibly 59. Before buying another possible wrong Marr Cert I am hoping to establish I am on right track. Please help, thank you, Syljun
P.S. I do not know if and what relationship Bessie would be to Dorothy the Proprietor.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Would you explain "nee Radford nee Pask" for Bessie?



Mrs D M V Miller-Mead is listed in the Westminster Arms 1941 Post Office directory (source Deadpubs.co.uk)

Donald V & Dorothy Pask (+Thomas Corcoran) appear electoral roll 1965 75 Page Street.SW1

All same reference . . . . . .
Marriage Sep 1941 Westminster 1a 1019
Dorothy M V Knight         / Donald V Pask
Dorothy M V M Mead      / Pask
Dorothy M V Miller-Mead / Pask

Marriage Jun 1924 StGeoHSq 1a 966
Dorothy M V Knight        / Arthur F G Miller-Mead

Birth 1888 Mar Newbury 2c 250 Dorothy Knight

[KGarrad]

From FreeBMD:

Marriages, September qtr 1943
Hendon district    vol 3a, page 1696

Harding, Henry    Spouse Radford
Isaacs, Henry      Spouse Radford
Radford, Bessie   Spouse Harding


If Bessie had been married before, I would have expected to see her former name here?

Can't find any marriage for Pask to Radford?

[syljun]

Hi, Marriage of Bessie Pask to George Radford - 1906 Newport Mon. George died 1939.
It is strange that freebmd has both Henry Harding and Henry Isaacs marrying Bessie Radford but she married Henry Harding.
I have taken some of the info. from Pask one name study but unfortunately it does not tell me anything about Henry Harding only Pask members.
From the info. you have given it appears that  Donald Pask  was related to Bessie. I am trying to establish if Henry Harding was born London. Will research further as to Donald but Henry is the one I am trying to find out about. He may well have died in London as Bessie Harding is on Electoral Roll 1954 in Newport, Monmouth. Thank you for your help, grateful for any  morsel of info.
Hope you enjoyed your Christmas day. Syljun 

[KGarrad]

Hi, Marriage of Bessie Pask to George Radford - 1906 Newport Mon. George died 1939.

 

Not seeing a marriage in 1906, Monmouthshire for either a Bessie Pask or a George Radford?

But there IS a marriage of Bessie Park to George Radford?

[syljun]

Hi, Mistranscription. Should be Pask. I went by info. on one name studies. Will get Marr/Cert for Bessie and Henry after holidays even if wrong one. May not tell me anything of use as his Occupation may well have changed if he was running or helping to run Hotel. Many thanks, Syljun

[avm228]

It is strange that freebmd has both Henry Harding and Henry Isaacs marrying Bessie Radford but she married Henry Harding.

The index suggests that Henry may have had alternative names on the marriage entry - have you looked into that? FreeBMD has not made an error - Bessie's spouse is indexed in the GRO index as both Henry Isaacs and Henry Harding. In researching him you may need to consider the possibility that he used two surnames or changed his surname.

[syljun]

Hi avm228, Have given me food for thought but would that be allowed for a man. I do know that there is a double entry for his wife's second marriage both in Harding and her maiden surname. 1st marriage ended in divorce.
I understand second wife (Bessie) was known as Mrs. Harding.
Totally confused now. Perhaps that's why I could not find him after 1922. If he is mine.
This search gets more complicated. Why the name of Isaacs.
Will definitely have to get Marr/Cert if only out of curiosity.
Many thanks,  syljun

[Paulap]

Hi, not sure if this will help you.

My grandmother's sister was Bessie PASK. her 1st husband was George RADFORD, he is buried at St Peters Church Llandevaud, Llandevaud Newport Monmouthshire was Bessie's childhood home. On George's gravestone it states - In loving memory of George beloved husband of Bessie Radford, died Sept 10th 1939, aged 63 years, also his wife Bessie died Sept 10th 1983. She did marry Harry HARDING after George's death.

I also have a cutting from the South Wales Argus celebrating Bessies 100th birthday, in it she says she left Newport to help her husband run a pub in London during the war. I do know that Bessie didn't have any children. I have researched the PASK history and there is no Donald PASK related to Bessie