Henry James COCHRANE & Mary WATSON - Bairnsdale region Victoria

[Oscella]

Mixo:
Here are the details you asked for:

Robert Cochrane baptised Bamburgh 18 April 1819

Possibly married/partnered Dorothy and had a son Robert born Nov 1843. No further details known.

1841 Census living at Coldrife and recorded as a coalminer

1843 whilst working at PastureHill colliery near North Sunderland he was drowned on 7 October when water flooded into the pit. (There is a report in the Times of London on 19 October)

Robert senior died 20 Dec 1848 aged seventy.

[Mixo]

Hi,

Thanks for everyones input on this lookup.

Think I have a grasp on this Cochrane clan, and am confident i have fairly accurate details on all bar Thomas, on my ancestry.com site, at
http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/42805013/family?cfpid=28063784704&selnode=1

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many thanks again
Mixo via Warragul Vic 

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[Oscella]

I wouldn't put much stead in the marriage to old Percy either.  I can't find what happened to her "first husband" Michael Kelly - there are too many to know which one it is.  But if he didn't die, then she would have still been married to him.

She died at 50 Exhibition st, so must have been living with her daughters.  The informant is listed as an authorised agent.  The information must have been given by the daughters so maybe they thought she had married Percy or maybe they did just sanitise her history?

It lists her children as the three with Percy and Catherine that she had with Jack Dow in 1873.

She and the 2 daughters are buried at New Cheltenham Cemetery.  I have paid to join their site so that I can see the listing and whether they have headstones, photos or inscriptions.  I am waiting for them to send me my log in details. If I find anything from them, I'll let you know!

Mosher this is an old thread now but Mixo has just queried something and I cannot see the answer here. Hoping you might know.

The electoral roll for 1909 for Bruthen shows the following Cochranes:
Anastasia, home duties
Catherine, home duties
Elizabeth, housemaid
Ellen, schoolteacher
Percy, labourer
Sarah, waitress

Do you have any idea who Ellen Cochrane is? Could she be Anastasia's daughter from her earlier relationships? Or Percival's wife?

[attunga11]

James Murphy, Anastasia's father arrived in Australia on the convict ship Andromeda II in 1830, aged 14.  He was an errand boy tried in Limerick for pick pocketing, and sentenced to 7 years deportation On his arrival he was sent to Carter's Barracks, and received his ticket of freedom on 13th March, 1838. James married Catherine, who was also know with the surnames, Kelleher, sometimes spelled Callaghan, Higgins and Sheehan (Shean). Catherine arrived in Australia aged 2 on the convict ship Canada IV with her mother Mary Kelleher (Sullivan) from Cork. Anastasia was my great, great grandfather Philip's sister.

[mosher]

Hi attunga11, do you have any reason why you think that James is "our" James?  Most researchers (including me) have narrowed it down to one of the 2 James Murphys on the Lonach arriving 1825 and getting a TOL in 1830, COF in 1831.
His son John was my GG Grandfather.
Do you have any more on Anastasia?

[attunga11]

Hi mosher, I found the information on ancestry.com. Twelve different people had posted this James Murphy, born in Cork in 1816, and have Catherine Sheehan as his wife, with her also marrying a Phillip Smith and John Walter,  the information also matched their children's names to my list. You might already know what I do about Anastasia (1847-1939) she was married to John Duncan Gow, children Catherine (1873-1951) and James (1875-1875), then married Michael Kelly.  She then had a relationship with Percival Cochrane, who died in a mining accident in Mitta Mitta in 1890, they had three children Sarah (1879-1954), Percival (1881-1937) and Elizabeth (1885-1961), she is stated as being Percival's widow when he died.
I have found some interesting stories in a book Pioneers of the Omeo Plains, by Jane Vince Pendergast, which mentions John and Michael Murphy and their uncles Thomas and Michael Sheehan (Sheean) and John Higgins, Catherine's brothers. The Sheehan's father died when he was only 35 and their mother Matilda married James Pendergast. 

[mosher]

I wouldn't put too much faith in Ancestry trees.  They are full of errors (even my own - I stopped updating it ages ago as I use a non-online program now but so many people were copying it I made it private).  The problem is that there were so many convicts called James Murphy and there is really no definitive way of knowing which one is the right one.  Unless you have one, I have never found a marriage for him and Catherine which would give more details, nor is there a death record for him.  He is a man of mystery!
By examining other factors such as proximity to each other etc the one of the Lonach seems most likely, but again we will probably never know for sure.
I am happy to email you what I have if you PM me your email address.  To be honest it's been a while since I looked at it all so there may be more available now.